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re: Ole Miss black mailing Recruits

Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:15 pm to
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t's a voicemail though?




Of course it is sweetheart
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:17 pm to
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To protect yourself in the future if they lie to the NCAA about you.




So you think that recording a conversation without their consent is

1- legal
2- helpful

If a recruit wants to lie, he or she can totally fabricate and you would have to prove that you just didnt record it. Kind of suspicious that you didn't record the one conversation that you offered them money.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:26 pm to
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So you think that recording a conversation without their consent is

1- legal

It is legal in many states.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:29 pm to
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If a recruit wants to lie, he or she can totally fabricate and you would have to prove that you just didnt record it.

You can have all of the recordings and get a copy of your phone records.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:30 pm to
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quote:
If a recruit wants to lie, he or she can totally fabricate and you would have to prove that you just didnt record it.

You can have all of the recordings and get a copy of your phone records.



We met and you gave me money! Now prove me wrong.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32246 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:32 pm to
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You are totally missing the point. Stop trying to defend MSU.... this isn't about MSU. I don't care about MSU.

You are confusing me. Maybe when you said this:
quote:

Let's say it get's you guys in trouble.
it kind of made it about MSU. Capisce?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:37 pm to
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We met and you gave me money! Now prove me wrong

You would have to provide some type of proof. That's on the accuser.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37632 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:42 pm to
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You would have to provide some type of proof. That's on the accuser.


Does Ole Miss really want to dig their hole deeper?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17749 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Does Ole Miss really want to dig their hole deeper?


In fairness, all of this "tape and M.A.D." talk is just message board hysteria, thrown out by a fanbase who has been lied to for 3+ years. They're hurt, as we all would be, and are lashing out. The kid who they want to burn is only mentioned in 1 of the 15 Level I violations, and the OM Counsel is not challenging that allegation.

Officials at Ole Miss are looking for friends right now, definitely not looking to make more enemies.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:54 pm to
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It's a voicemail though?

how do y'all know this? I've yet to see an article that says it was a voicemail
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:56 pm to
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To protect yourself in the future if they lie to the NCAA about you.

and you don't think this will backfire on them with recruits not even wanting to talk to their school in the future?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105409 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:57 pm to
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I know if I was committing a crime, the first thing I would do is record every aspect of that crime for my personal records. No likelihood of backfiring, I have history as an example...
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:57 pm to
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So you think that recording a conversation without their consent is

1- legal

MS is a single consent state, meaning only one party in a recording has to consent to that conversation the single party being whatever rep from ole miss it was
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:03 pm to
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and you don't think this will backfire on them with recruits not even wanting to talk to their school in the future?

No. Not really.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:13 pm to
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No. Not really.

please explain? Admitting you will will record conversations and use them against a recruit if they ever cross you is moronic. You don't think every coach in America will use that against Ole Miss? You don't think recruits will be wary to even talk to them, knowing what they say wouldn't remain in confidence? I think you're being rather ignorant if you don't think this would impact them negatively.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:30 pm to
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Admitting you will will record conversations and use them against a recruit if they ever cross you is moronic.

It will only be used against them if they lie about what they said. But the recording could be beneficial to the coaching staff in other ways. They can go back later and review their approach to different recruits and learn from mistakes they might have made. Or not really mistakes, but try to find ways to be better in future conversations.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:31 pm to
If they explain that they do it for every recruit, then it's hard for the recruit to take it as a personal slight.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:33 pm to
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It will only be used against them if they lie about what they said. But the recording could be beneficial to the coaching staff in other ways. They can go back later and review their approach to different recruits and learn from mistakes they might have made. Or not really mistakes, but try to find ways to be better in future conversations.


I'm not saying recording conversations is bad in and of itself. I'm saying recording conversations and then admitting you recorded them and handing them over to the NCAA is bad.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:39 pm to
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I'm saying recording conversations and then admitting you recorded them and handing them over to the NCAA is bad

How is it bad if you only hand them over when you are being investigated?
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 1:39 pm to
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Ole Miss desperation


New mascot idea. Nothing fits better.
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