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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by bgator85
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:11 pm to
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Oldest public university in each SEC state

1853 - University of Florida



FSU went and changed their founding date from 1857 to 1851 back in the 2000's so they can claim to be the oldest.

1853 is used for UF because UF traces it's history to East Florida Seminary which opened that year. 1857 was chosen for FSU because that's when West Florida Seminary opened. 1851 was the date of legislation that created those two schools. UF and FSU didn't really come into existence until 1905 under the Buckman Act which created UF for men, FSU for women and Florida A&M for African Americans.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73503 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:13 pm to
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wait... South Carolina was a colony too

what were you doing USC?


Becoming the 8th state and moving the capital from Charleston to Columbia.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:15 pm to
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1853 - University of Florida


FSUcks is now claiming 1851, revisionist history.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:16 pm to
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Tennessee actually had classes before UGA did


Teaching what, how to make moccasins out of deer skin taught by a faculty of Cherokee?
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:19 pm to
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Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:20 pm to
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1848 - University of Mississippi
1860 - Louisiana State University (also read 1853, someone with more knowledge clarify for me)


Depending on if you mean private now or at inception, technically, Centenary College of Louisiana would be the successor/oldest college for both Mississippi and Louisiana.

It was created due to a merger of the legislature-charted College of Louisiana and the Methodist Centenary College in Mississippi and is the oldest chartered college west of the Mississippi River.
quote:

In 1825, the Louisiana state legislature issued a charter for the College of Louisiana in Jackson. . . .In 1839, the Mississippi Conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church, South, established Centenary College, first located in Clinton, Mississippi, then relocated to Brandon Springs.[5] When the College of Louisiana lost the financial support from the state legislature in 1845, Centenary College purchased the facility and moved to Jackson.

In 1846, the college’s trustees changed the institution’s name to Centenary College of Louisiana and adopted the alumni of the two predecessor colleges.


Just a little fun fact.
Posted by TheRaid
Currently Living in South Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:27 pm to
Universities have a way of making themselves to be something they aren't. Just look at how many national titles Alabama gained from one press guide one year to the next press guide after they did "research" to declare their titles. Alabama being the oldest public university in the state is just another example. Alabama is the FSU revisionist university of the SEC.

But, the one that takes the cake IMO if FSU. When I lived in Florida, they came out with this huge campaign to let everyone know that they were the oldest university in the nation. They spend millions on ads in the Chronicle for Higher Education, billboards, tv commercials, and even their halftime commercial for football games.

They did some "research" and determined that they traced their university all the way back to President Monroe's school for the native Americans. Note, they weren't even Seminoles!

That was awfully revisionist and awfully embarrassing for them. Some students called them out and now they don't say that anymore.

Some really bad revisionist history for FSU:

1) Claimed to be the oldest university in the nation
2) Claims (still claims) to be the original "university of Florida"
3) Claims (still claims) they invented Gatorade.
4) Claims (still claims) they are the oldest in the state of Florida.

They also claim they are one of the two teams that first played in an official national title game. That would be Florida v. Nebraska.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36047 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

wait... South Carolina was a colony too

what were you doing USC?

Putting down slave revolts.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:31 pm to
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Tennessee actually had classes before UGA did


really
Posted by Luke
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:32 pm to
Bc UA is Trustworthy source. They've never claimed ANYTHING that wasn't true
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:32 pm to
hunter's safety courses... notice the orange
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:36 pm to
i'm pretty sure how old a college is not significant to most people in this world. lol it is trivia.

the oldest colleges has very small student enrollment in their first decades.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64010 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:37 pm to

quote:

1794 - University of Tennessee



Tenn wasn't a state until 1796.

UT wasn't a state institution until 1807.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 1:40 pm to
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1785 - University of Georgia
1794 - University of Tennessee


The Big 2, 18th Century edition
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:11 pm to
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1860 - Louisiana State University (also read 1853, someone with more knowledge clarify for me)


LSU may be the oldest existing public university in Louisiana, but it was not the first. The Medical College of Louisiana was founded in 1834 as a public medical school. The legislature changed its name to the University of Louisiana in 1847 and added the law school. In 1851, it established its first academic department.

A businessman named Paul Tulane donated real estate for the support of education, leading to the creation of the Tulane Educational Fund. Instead of creating its own university, the board of the TEF decided to support the University of Louisiana. The legislature transferred control of the university to the TEF board in 1884 and the school was privatized and given its current name, the Tulane University of Louisiana, more commonly known simply as Tulane University.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:47 pm to
Mizzou is oldest west of the mississippi. You should put that on there.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64660 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:49 pm to
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Teaching what, how to make moccasins out of deer skin taught by a faculty of Cherokee?

all that happened in 1785 was the State Legislature established the board of trustees and incorporated the college. Classes didn't actually commence at UGA until 1801.

Tennessee was both established and began classes in 1794.

As to UNC claiming to be the oldest "The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is one of three universities that claims to be the oldest public university in the United States and the only such institution to confer degrees in the eighteenth century."
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64660 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:50 pm to
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Tenn wasn't a state until 1796.

UT wasn't a state institution until 1807.


It was Blount college before becoming the University of Tennessee
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64010 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Mizzou is oldest west of the mississippi. You should put that on there.


Someday this is going to be on Final Jeopardy and I'm going to bet it all.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:53 pm to
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1785 - University of Georgia (oldest public in nation)


Uh.... no it's not?

That would be William & Mary in Virginia
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