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Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:56 pm to deeprig9
Everyone is parsing history and semantics.
Fact: The University of Georgia was the first state-chartered university in the United States of America.
Fact: The University of Georgia was the first state-chartered university in the United States of America.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 2:58 pm to deeprig9
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Public at the time of charter? As in State-funded, state chartered.
the "state-funded" part would exclude aggy because they were federally funded.
You see, the Morrill Act provided federal funds to study farm animals and husbandry techniques, allowing places like Colorado, Kansas and Texas to have federally funded ag schools before "The State University" (which was state funded) came into existence.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:13 pm to texashorn
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the Morrill Act
Well, in some cases it founded new institutions, and in other cases, those funds went to existing institutions.
Arkansas College was the first university given permission by the state to grant degrees. As luck would have it, the institution was small and also directly across the street from a large hidden cache of Union explosives which were detonated in a battle. There's a plaque commemorating that event. Also, the faculty and town were perceived as Union sympathizers, so the Confederates burned it all down before heading up to fight the Yankees at Pea Ridge.
Had the Arkansas College campus not been obliterated partially in battle and subsequently deliberately torched by rebel soldiers, it's likely Arkansas College would have become the Land Grant Institution in Arkansas anyway.
The pre-existence of that college certainly led to Fayetteville winning the grant competition after the war. The locals already considered themselves a "college town" for many years prior. Arkansas Industrial University was founded on a site you can see when you're standing on the site of Arkansas College. They're both hillsides, they just used a larger parcel of property with more flat area to found AIU.
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:15 pm to texashorn
Actually, the Morrill Act's purpose was to:
As usual, you contribute slightly less than nothing to this site.
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without excluding other scientific and classical studies and including military tactic, to teach such branches of learning as are related to agriculture and the mechanic arts, in such manner as the legislatures of the States may respectively prescribe, in order to promote the liberal and practical education of the industrial classes in the several pursuits and professions in life
As usual, you contribute slightly less than nothing to this site.
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:18 pm to texag7
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1785 - University of Georgia (oldest public in nation)
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1865 - University of Kentucky
University of Kentucky was spun off of Transylvania University. Transy is a private university in Lexington. It was founded in 1780, making it the first university in Kentucky and among the oldest in the United States.
Transylvania is the alma mater of two U.S. vice presidents, two U.S. Supreme Court justices, fifty U.S. senators, 101 U.S. representatives, 36 U.S. governors, and 34 U.S. ambassadors, making it a large producer of U.S. statesmen. Its medical program graduated 8,000 physicians by 1859. Its enduring footprint, both in national and southern academia, make it among the most prolific cultural establishments and the most storied institutions in the South
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:22 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
So the Morrill Act was a bit broader than just ag, but don't kid yourselves, these were "ag" schools.
That doesn't change my factual assertion by one iota.
It's sad when it comes to aggies denying that they are aggies.
That doesn't change my factual assertion by one iota.
It's sad when it comes to aggies denying that they are aggies.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:24 pm to texashorn
why do you talk down agriculture programs? they are life science / biology programs and/or business related programs.
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:24 pm to deeprig9
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Fact: The University of Georgia was the first state-chartered university in the United States of America.
True.
Fact: University of North Carolina is the only university to admit and graduate students as a public institution in the 18th century.
And the battle continues....
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:28 pm to texag7
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1794 - University of Tennessee
Oldest secular university.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:30 pm to texashorn
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So the Morrill Act was a bit broader than just ag, but don't kid yourselves, these were "ag" schools.
Arkansas Industrial University included agricultural programs, but those were minimized from the start (maybe because the Ozarks are a really shitty environment for most agriculture).
Those Land Grant "Ag Schools" include Cornell, UMass, and the University of California, fyi.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:31 pm to deeprig9
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Teaching what, how to make moccasins out of deer skin taught by a faculty of Cherokee?
Just because we got along with the Cherokee while y'all used the pretext of a GOLD RUSH! to usher in the Trail of Tears...
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:31 pm to texashorn
Please go away. You were not even a thought when A&M was founded
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:32 pm to deeprig9
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Everyone is parsing history and semantics.
Fact: The University of Georgia was the first state-chartered university in the United States of America.
Georgia was state chartered but didn't have actual students for 15 years. Is it even a college if no one can attend?
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:35 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:42 pm to lsufball19
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Tennessee actually had classes before UGA did
Correct......but till this day, neither of their teams football players are required to attend!
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:46 pm to texag7
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Please go away. You were not even a thought when A&M was founded
wut? quote:
On April 18, 1838, "An Act to Establish the University of Texas" was referred to a special committee of the Texas Congress, but was not reported back for further action.
On January 26, 1839, the Texas Congress agreed to set aside fifty leagues of land (approx. 288,000 acres) towards the establishment of a publicly funded university.
In addition, 40 acres (160,000 m2) in the new capital of Austin were reserved and designated "College Hill." (The term "Forty Acres" is colloquially used to refer to the University as a whole. The original forty acres is the area from Guadalupe to Speedway and 21st Street to 24th Street).
On February 11, 1858, the Seventh Texas Legislature approved O.B. 102, an act to establish the University of Texas, which set aside $100,000 in United States bonds toward construction of the state's first publicly funded university[
There's more, but that's plenty 'nuff beatdown.
LINK
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:49 pm to Tillman
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William and Mary
Had a full ride academic scholly from them but my blood runneth Garnet and Black.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 3:53 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Taters are worse than t-sips.
Example: Tillman
Example: Tillman
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