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re: Oklahoma's academic peers: B1G or SEC

Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:48 am to
Posted by FishFearMe
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:48 am to
Never heard any of those statements you cite. In fact there was a very serious fan backlash when A&M didn't go to the SEC the first time it was discussed.

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 9:50 am to
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Only chose A&M as a peer university,




UF helped us get into the SEC for a reason.
Posted by BayouBengalInc
Covington
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:07 am to
Phil Loadholt

Couldn't get in LSU.

“I’m not going to be at LSU anymore. I had some trouble qualifying,” said Loadholt, who added he planned to play again at Garden City this fall.

Then went to Oklahoma.

/endthread
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:17 am to
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OU would be a good fit for the Big, add Kansas and the west division looks a lot like the old Big 8.


Yeah, it would have a small Big 8 flavor. Obviously Colorado is gone. Iowa State isn't going to get invited. Kansas State is out.

I doubt Missouri would leave the SEC, but wouldn't be shocked if they did.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:21 am to
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UF helped us get into the SEC for a reason.

That's because the AAU members run shite.
Posted by Spindicus Lofrus
Member since Oct 2014
814 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:28 am to
OU is an academic peer of Michigan and Texas?

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17977 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:29 am to
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Check again. Nebraska is not AAU.


Nebraska was when they entered the B1G. After joining, the B1G schools promptly voted them out of AAU. Quite the odd sequence of events.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80060 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:29 am to
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OU is an academic peer of Michigan and Texas?


Like we said, the only schools on their peer list that agreed were Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Kansas, Iowa State, and Texas Tech.

Not a single school from outside the Big 12 (or even from the upper half of the Big 12 for that matter)
Posted by The Balinese Club
Coastal Bend Area of Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2797 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:45 am to
This is stupid. OU is a fine school, but no better than schools like any run of the mill SEC school. Being AAU is great, but not the "end all be all." UGA, Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, and SC are all fine schools and I would be proud for my daughter to go to any of them. Obviously not all schools are the same academically, and some have better or more specialized programs than others. But at the end of the day most schools in the SEC are just fine.

I'm sick of hearing about AAU this and AAU that. I'm glad that TAMU is AAU, but more importantly I like being affiliated with thirteen other southern schools that we share a common culture with. THAT is why I'm glad TAMU is in the SEC and not the PAC.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 10:47 am
Posted by slamduncan25
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:06 am to
Okie fits the SEC like a glove; also would not western expansion potentially get all the SEC gang (minus LSU & MS schools) back together? To me, that is why the old SEC should want to see expanding to the west. More or less recreates the old SEC in a east division with LSU, MS schools maintaining a lot of rivalry games while being stuck in west. But they get AM, Arky, Okie, Mizzou and some other school in the west which isn't horrible.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:12 am to
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I'm glad that TAMU is AAU


Me too. It was at those meetings sitting next to the UF president that Bowen learned exactly how green the grass was on the UF side of the fence.

The irony is that Texas (along with Rice) worked to get us into the AAU in order to raise the prestige of our state (and maybe the Big 12) and that ended up being our ticket out of town.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79169 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:14 am to
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I'm sick of hearing about AAU this and AAU that. I'm glad that TAMU is AAU, but more importantly I like being affiliated with thirteen other southern schools that we share a common culture with. THAT is why I'm glad TAMU is in the SEC and not the PAC.



AAU is just something the Big 10 can grasp onto. It's made especially dumb by several schools holding membership only by virtue of early entry, which is why a number of those schools would be only average to above average academically in the SEC.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40122 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:16 am to
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Oklahoma's academic peers: B1G or SEC


quote:

nebraskafaninwi


This is where Oklahoma will end up.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40122 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:47 am to
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Oklahoma's academics would be the laughingstock of the Big 10. It's SEC or bust for them. Too bad they won't get it.


I read somewhere that they were making a hard push to improve academics and gain AAU status before the Big 12 GOR expires. OU is currenlty ranked with106th and tied with Iowa State and Kansas both of which are AAU schools. So them achieving AAU status is not that unthinkable. That would put them in much better position come tv negotation. I guess they feel like that could get them into the BIG or the PAC without Texas.

I doubt it would happen, but I could see the PAC-12 jumping for Texas and TTU/Rice and then taking KSU and OSU as filler teams. The PAC does have Oregon State (138th), Arizona State (129th-tied), Washington State (138th) and University of Utah (129th-tied). Kansas State is ranked #142 and Okie State is ranked #139. The only other options for the PAC to get to 16 would be to take UNM and UNLV/Nevada. Oklahoma and Kansas have more ppl than New Mexico and Nevada and OSU and KSU are ranked higher in academics that UNM (129th), University of Nevada (189) and UNLV (tier2). college rankings

Oklahoma (assuming OU gets AAU status) and Kansas could get invited to the BIG. OU is also set to play nebraska in 2021 and 2022 and that could be there chance to make their case.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:22 pm to
Yeah but they're tied to THE Oklahoma State University as long as T Bone Steak is alive.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40122 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:27 pm to
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Yeah but they're tied to THE Oklahoma State University as long as T Bone Steak is alive.



That is why I said I doubt it will happen. Hell in 10 years OSU could be wanting to break from OU just like Nebraska did or how Texas A&M broke away from Texas. Who knows what the future holds.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 3:32 pm to
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I doubt Missouri would leave the SEC, but wouldn't be shocked if they did.

You keep alluding to Mizzou being willing to leave. But just the other day, you quoted some "B1G insider" as saying they knew Mizzou was off the table and weren't pursuing any longer. I would refer you to Brady Deaton's statement about this move, saying that it was a 100 year decision. Mizzou is not leaving the SEC. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can move on.

Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:04 pm to
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It is easier for athletes to qualify at 0U than at SEC schools.

Which is all that matters as far as this board goes.

Stop the presses!! I agree with Dale!!
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:11 pm to
The AAU is pretty much nothing special. Basically if you were a member of any power 5 conference outside the SEC or ACC, you got in. Look at some of these names:

Iowa State
Rutgers
SUNY Buffalo
SUNY Stony Brook
Arizona
Colorado
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29665 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:16 pm to
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I'd compare them to the likes of West Virginia, Ole Miss, and LSU.


one of those is not like the others

LSU is far superior to W VA & Ole Miss academically
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