re: Oklahoma Too Good Academically For The SEC?

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Flip Missouri to Tier 2 below Florida. Arkansas up to Tier 3, while flipping Auburn Tennessee and South Carolina down to Tier 4.

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Bitch please

On the one hand, yes, it's preposterous for Oklahoma to even insinuate that it belongs in a conference with Stanford and Berkeley--arguably the best private school in the country and the best public school in the world.

On the other hand, you can't really fault them for trying. Being associated with schools like those two would only improve OU's station. It's more that those two schools want nothing to do with Oklahoma.

Lol

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I agree the SEC isn't bad, but it's probably 4th of the 5 conferences right? Behind the Pac, the B1G and the ACC

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Not necessarily.

Big Ten is #1 by a small margin over the PAC 12. The reason for this is while the PAC 12 has the top public schools as well as academic powers USC and Stanford, it has bottom-feeders such as Arizona State and Oregon State.

The ACC was ahead of the PAC 12 until they added Louisville. That actually put them closer to the SEC.

The Mississippi Schools are what keeps the SEC from passing the ACC.

AAU schools by conference:

Big 10 - All but Nebraska

PAC 12 - Colorado, UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal-Berkely, Washington, Oregon

ACC - Duke, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Miami

SEC - Vanderbilt, Florida, Texas A&M, Missouri

Big 12 - Texas, Kansas, Iowa State

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Is it fair to judge only on AAU standing? I think GT is now AAU as well, one of the recent adds

I would be surprised if you found many institutions who are not AAU stronger than GT or Miami.

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It's really not. There are plenty of schools that deserve to be invited to the AAU just based off of how much research money they bring in and their growing academic clout... and there are also plenty of schools currently in the AAU that have grandfathered their way in and should no longer be there. Selectivity is what makes it desirable.. if they invited everybody that fits the criteria then it's no longer really that desirable.

There's also been articles written about the AAU's bias against Southern universities.. specifically those in the Deep South. It'll take a long time to change perception, but in terms of actual classroom and research academics, Southern flagship universities aren't far off from their northern and western counterparts in academic prowess. With the University of Georgia leading the way, I predict schools like Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina and LSU will be on par with their Big 10, ACC and Pac 12 counterparts in another 20 or 30 years.

Now whether rankings and public perception will reflect that is a different story.. but in terms of actual classroom learning opportunities and research capabilities there won't be much of a difference. In 20 or 30 years a young adult will be able to get the same quality of education at those schools listed above as they could at a Washington or Penn State.

Oklahoma bill would make AP U.S. History history

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Some lawmakers in Oklahoma want to make Advanced Placement U.S. History history. What's their beef? The course, which was redesigned by the College Board and implemented in high school classrooms last year, isn't quite pro-America enough. "In essence, we have a new emphasis on what is bad about America," said state representative Dan Fisher, the measure's chief sponsor.

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The Aggies should be in the Tier 1 for sheep chasing and cult activities

Maybe I don't get it. Why do schools care about the academics of the other schools in their conference. Focus on your school..


That is like a high school refusing to play it's rival because they have a lesser graduation rate than them.

He also says that OU looks at joining the Pac 12 as a way to "enhance" its academic standing and that OU folks don't want the challenge of playing football in the SEC.

"The SEC is about the same as the Big 12. Big 12 used to be better and then the SEC got two of the better academic institutions from the Big 12 and sort of tilted it."