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Offense and Defense POY
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:28 pm
Offense - As much as it pains me.....Jalen Hurts. Really down year overall with top talent being injured (Chubb, Fournette, Kelley, T Knight, etc...) Hurts was consistent if not dynamic and this should be a fairly easy call. Runner up - Guice
Defense - Barnett. He was unblockable at times and gave maximum effort all the time. Runner-up - Jonathan Allen or the entire AL defense.
Yours?
Defense - Barnett. He was unblockable at times and gave maximum effort all the time. Runner-up - Jonathan Allen or the entire AL defense.
Yours?
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:32 pm to HoopyD
I'm not sure about offense. I don't think Jalen was consistent enough to win it.
No way Barnett deserves it for Defense. His D gave up 500+ yards in the last 3 or 4 games. My vote would be for Jon Allen.
No way Barnett deserves it for Defense. His D gave up 500+ yards in the last 3 or 4 games. My vote would be for Jon Allen.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:33 pm to HoopyD
Kirk
Garrett
no doubt, no doubt in my mind. Obviously not a homer pick.
Garrett
no doubt, no doubt in my mind. Obviously not a homer pick.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:34 pm to HoopyD
Offense - Nick Fitzgerald.
Defense - Zach Cunningham from Vandy. Dude is a monster. Jonathan Allen and Barnett also have strong cases.
Defense - Zach Cunningham from Vandy. Dude is a monster. Jonathan Allen and Barnett also have strong cases.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:39 pm to HoopyD
Homer picks
Dobbs and Barnett
Non-Homer picks
Hurts and Cunningham
Dobbs and Barnett
Non-Homer picks
Hurts and Cunningham
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:43 pm to ArabianKnight
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No way Barnett deserves it for Defense. His D gave up 500+ yards in the last 3 or 4 games
So just ignore the fact that he has better stats than everyone else at his position, including Allen?
OK then. Go frick yourself with a cactus
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:43 pm to HoopyD
OPOY is really tough
Guice had a huge season, but he didn't rack up enough carries vs. Wisconsin, Auburn and Alabama (7 total in those 3 games). Granted in just 3 carries against Auburn ran for 62 yards.
Jalen Hurts was good "for a freshman" but his stats really dont scream OPOY at all. 147 passer rating is merely decent but he does have the 840 yards and 12 TD on the ground to help a lot. Again, solid numbers, but really only "because he's a freshman" and "on a 12-0 team". Him and Josh Dobbs are almost identical this year, and I don't see anyone nominating Dobbs (because Tennessee blew it).
You look at receivers and nobody stands out.
So yeah, no clue who should be OPOY, kind of sums up offenses in the SEC this year.
Guice had a huge season, but he didn't rack up enough carries vs. Wisconsin, Auburn and Alabama (7 total in those 3 games). Granted in just 3 carries against Auburn ran for 62 yards.
Jalen Hurts was good "for a freshman" but his stats really dont scream OPOY at all. 147 passer rating is merely decent but he does have the 840 yards and 12 TD on the ground to help a lot. Again, solid numbers, but really only "because he's a freshman" and "on a 12-0 team". Him and Josh Dobbs are almost identical this year, and I don't see anyone nominating Dobbs (because Tennessee blew it).
You look at receivers and nobody stands out.
So yeah, no clue who should be OPOY, kind of sums up offenses in the SEC this year.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:45 pm to HoopyD
Defense - Cunningham. Cunningham. Cunningham.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:45 pm to HoopyD
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Offense
Without injuries I would vote for Kam Pettway. But yeah Hurts should get it.
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Defense
Zach Cunningham
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:46 pm to ArabianKnight
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No way Barnett deserves it for Defense. His D gave up 500+ yards in the last 3 or 4 games. My vote would be for Jon Allen.
Good thing a player =/= team
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:47 pm to HoopyD
Hurts is going to win Offensive pretty easily, which is an indictment on the conference.
Defense will go to either Cunningham or Allen.
Defense will go to either Cunningham or Allen.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:47 pm to jatebe
There's no doubt Alabama had the best defense but its hard to single anyone out as the standout. Other than the superman sack, what made Allen stand out more than Williams, Foster or others?
Barnett or Cunningham will probably get the nod because they were true standouts on their teams.
Barnett or Cunningham will probably get the nod because they were true standouts on their teams.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:48 pm to HoopyD
POY - Richard Hurts is gonna hard to beat
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:50 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Well, Allen and Barnett don't really play the same position. Allen plays inside a good bit and is really more of an interior pass rusher than an edge guy. But you can't with a straight face say Barnett hasn't had an amazing season. He certainly has. For as long as UT was in the game against Bama, it was because of Barnett. To be able to say that about an edge rusher speaks to how good he is. I'd have no issue with him winning it. Cunningham is very deserving as well.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:53 pm to HoopyD
I personally think Foster has been our best guy this year, but it's hard to say what differentiates him from anyone else. Him, Allen, Anderson, Williams, Hamilton, Fitzpatrick, Jackson (before getting hurt) all have had really outstanding seasons.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:54 pm to HoopyD
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Other than the superman sack, what made Allen stand out more than Williams, Foster or others?
294-pound Alabama DE Jonathan Allen runs 75 glorious yards on interception return for TD
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