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re: Of Tom Ritter and Bama

Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:42 am to
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He gave you a win last year against LSU. You wouldnt be in the playoff if he hadnt made that horseshite call. AU and LSU are united in saying frick ritter


He did? I was under the impression that Alabama overcame a similar penalty in OT and still scored. Seems like LSU just fricking sucks and uses the refs as an excuse.

Of course I'm sure Ritter helped Blake SIms drive all the way down on your weak defense and set Griffith up for a game-tying FG.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:45 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:43 am to
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He gave you a win last year against LSU. You wouldnt be in the playoff if he hadnt made that horse shite call. AU and LSU are united in saying frick ritter


Saban Bama v LSU overall: 7-3
With Ritter: 2-2

Saban Bama v Auburn overall: 6-3
With Ritter: 1-2

Be careful what you wish for.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:45 am to
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He gave you a win last year against LSU. You wouldnt be in the playoff if he hadnt made that horse shite call. AU and LSU are united in saying frick ritter


This is the difference between Bama and LSU.

LSU gets called for a horse shite personal foul, and their team, coaches, and fans start trying to play the victim and assume a loss because refs.

Bama gets called for a horse shite personal foul that takes the ball from the LSU 1 yardline out to the 16 yardline THE VERY NEXT POSSESSION, and the Bama team, coaches, and fans start anticipating overcoming that horseshite call to win the game.

Winners vs Victims. It's all a mindset.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:46 am
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:45 am to
Did not read, just here to get my post count up. Down voted also for being Bama trash.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:23 pm to
Life is a lot simpler and less stressful when you can just turn a blind eye to facts and pretend to be the victim to make up for your failures I suppose. Well played.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19276 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:29 pm to
OP, I am curious as to where you got these stats, as they are not the run of the mill stats one can just pick up from the internet. A source in the league office? I have a friend who refs in the ACC and he said that all such stats are almost state secrets & never out there for the general public's review.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:32 pm to
Post of the year.
Posted by cyde
He gone
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31793 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:34 pm to
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This is sad
But it isn't when the allegations are made, right?
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2760 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:35 pm to
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but it's a fact your RT was tackling Lawson all game. It killed his impact.


Shon Coleman has been tackling DEs for 2 years but I don't see Auburn fans complaining about that.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:37 pm to
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Shon Coleman has been tackling DEs for 2 years but I don't see Auburn fans complaining about that.


And before that was Greg Robinson, who the NFL Draft experts made a highlight tape of his "holding plays" to show his biggest weakness and inability to finish a block without tackling a guy.

Surprise surprise, he sucks in the league.

The dude literally got rich from his ability to hold defensive ends and linebackers.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30865 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:42 pm to
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I just think holding is going the way of traveling in the NBA, they are just letting the players do whatever they want.


You can thank coaches like Malzahn and fans all focusing on offense. Offensive penalties get fewer and fewer for the sake of higher scoring games.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:42 pm to
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OP, I am curious as to where you got these stats, as they are not the run of the mill stats one can just pick up from the internet. A source in the league office? I have a friend who refs in the ACC and he said that all such stats are almost state secrets & never out there for the general public's review.


The raw numbers aren't hard to find. The old newspaper style box score has the usual stats but also includes things like attendance and the officiating crew. It isn't in the box scores you find on sites like ESPN, but they're still available. Bama's official site has very in depth stats for all the seasons under Saban (don't know how far back they go). Here's the page with links to this year and here is the LSU game for an example of what's available.

Once you've got the raw numbers, the rest is nothing more that a simple Excel spreadsheet. For this analysis, I just created a sheet with year, referee, opponent, result (w/l), points for and against, penalties for and against, and penalty yardage for and against. Throw in some sorting, grouping, a few formulas, a there you have it.

Sounds like a lot but it really wasn't. We're talking about less than 80 games. The whole thing took less than an hour - and that included 15 minutes wasted finding stats for a couple of games that are mislinked on Bama's website.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:46 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:44 pm to
RA'd for sticky. Should be permanent.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:45 pm to
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Ritter
11-7 61% wins
Bama Penalties/Yds: 5.74 / 46.89
Foe Penalties/Yds: 5.68 / 46.63
Clever sleight of hand. All 7 of those losses were meaningless. All 11 of those wins either sealed the season or were against LSU and Auburn.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:48 pm to
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This probably took you 30 minutes to look up and I didn't read any of it



quote:

Supravol22


Lets be honest Corky, you could probably read the words he wrote, but you had difficulty in processing his point. That 'cypherin' and 'gozinta' math just baffles you hillbillies doesn't it?
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:48 pm to
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Clever sleight of hand. All 7 of those losses were meaningless. All 11 of those wins either sealed the season or were against LSU and Auburn


I assume you're being sarcastic, but just in case Bama during Saban's tenure is 2-2 vs LSU and 1-2 vs Auburn with Ritter as referee.

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:50 pm to
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All 7 of those losses were meaningless. All 11 of those wins either sealed the season or were against LSU and Auburn.


Posted by RECConspiracy
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
2073 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:58 pm to
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Did not read, just here to get my post count up. Down voted also for being Bama trash.


Yes you did. You have no rebuttal because there isn't one.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:59 pm to
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I assume you're being sarcastic, but just in case Bama during Saban's tenure is 2-2 vs LSU and 1-2 vs Auburn with Ritter as referee.


Yes, it was a joke. And yes, Ritter is still a shitty Ref. No one really thinks he's out to get anyone, though.
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