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Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:58 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:58 am to Tuscaloosa
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Special teams scores, opposing defense scores, offensive turnovers inside your own territory, etc
I agree, but OM was still better than both LSU and Bama in scoring, turnovers, red zone, and 3rd down defense. They were also better than Bama against the pass and better than LSU against the run.
To say they don't have an argument for best defense in 2014 is just untrue.
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:00 am to 1BamaRTR
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Why can't Ole Miss fans admit they didn't have the best defense last year. No one else thinks they do
NCAA does.
We don't care what kind of spinning y'all want to do. Ole Miss had the best defense in the nation last year. Fact. frick your spinning. Facts.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:00 am to Tuscaloosa
There are factors about Yards allowed too that skew total such as blowouts.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:01 am to REBEL5 AC
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We don't care what kind of spinning y'all want to do. Ole Miss had the best defense in the nation last year. Fact. frick your spinning. Facts.
OM had the best scoring defense in the nation, not the best overall defense.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:01 am to SouthMSReb
Yards per play is a much better indicator that yards per game...OM lead LSU and bama in that as well...as well as takeaways
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:02 am to RB10
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I agree, but OM was still better than both LSU and Bama in scoring, turnovers, red zone, and 3rd down defense. They were also better than Bama against the pass and better than LSU against the run.
Woah woah woah... Leave Bama out of this. I don't need any reminder about how shitty our defense was last year.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:03 am to RB10
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OM had the best scoring defense in the nation
That's the best defense. I do not give a frick if you give up 100 yards per game and we give up 83274 yards per game. If y'all give up an average of 30 points per game and we give up 17 points per game, our defense is better.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:05 am to REBEL5 AC
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I do not give a frick if you give up 100 yards per game and we give up 83274 yards per game. If y'all give up an average of 30 points per game and we give up 17 points per game, our defense is better.
Ehhh...
What if they just have really shitty special teams and give up a couple scores per game in the kicking game?
That's only a fair argument if you dissect each point scored and determine how they were scored.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:06 am to REBEL5 AC
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That's the best defense. I do not give a frick if you give up 100 yards per game and we give up 83274 yards per game. If y'all give up an average of 30 points per game and we give up 17 points per game, our defense is better.
More goes into calling yourself the best defense than just scoring. I'm sorry you can't accept that, but it's the truth.
ETA: As has been stated, a team can give up points while the defense is sitting on the sideline.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:13 am to RB10
did LSU have the 2nd best offense in the SEC in 2011? They scored the 2nd most points per game. I mean that's all that really matters, nevermind all the defensive scores, turnovers created, and having the best punt coverage in the country. #science
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:14 am to lsufball19
Because offense and defense are similar and everything...
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:15 am to lsufball19
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did LSU have the 2nd best offense in the SEC in 2011? They scored the 2nd most points per game. I mean that's all that really matters, nevermind all the defensive scores, turnovers created, and having the best punt coverage in the country. #science
You should be responding to the two OM posters with this, not me. I agree that scoring defense isn't all that matters.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:16 am to Tuscaloosa
Sure. I'm 100% sure Ole Miss still comes out #1
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:17 am to REBEL5 AC
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Because offense and defense are similar and everything...
Are you retarded? Scoring offense and scoring defense are very similar since they both can be affected while the unit isn't even on the field.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:18 am to REBEL5 AC
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Because offense and defense are similar and everything...
you say all that matters is the number on the scoreboard. in that sense, yes they are
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:19 am to RB10
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You should be responding to the two OM posters with this, not me. I agree that scoring defense isn't all that matters
that's who i'm responding to, don't worry
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:20 am to REBEL5 AC
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Sure. I'm 100% sure Ole Miss still comes out #1
By a total of 5 points, and an average of .4 points per game over Stanford. I wonder if Stanford's QB threw a pick 6 this past season? I wonder if they gave up any touchdowns on special teams?
Does that mean Stanford's defense isn't as good because their scoring defense went up from 15.84 to 16.4 because their QB made a bad read or their punt team blew coverage?
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 9:22 am
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:20 am to RB10
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Ole Miss:
Scoring - 1st
Total - 4th
Turnovers - 1st
Red Zone - 3rd
Rushing - 5th
Passing -
3rd down - 1st
LSU:
Scoring - 2nd
Total - 1st
Turnovers - T-10th
Red Zone - 6th
Rushing - 7th
Passing - 1st
3rd Down - 5th
Bama:
Scoring - 3rd
Total - 3rd
Turnovers - T-10th
Red Zone - 8th
Rushing - 1st
Passing - 11th
3rd Down - 7th
Personally, on the back half of the season, I thought we had a better defense than Ole Miss. Obviously, I'm biased but these final numbers improved big time after the Georgia game.
Arkansas:
Scoring - 4th
Total - 2nd
Turnovers - 4th
Red Zone - 12th
Rushing - 2nd
Passing - 5th
3rd Down - 4th
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:21 am to lsufball19
Correct...that is all that matters
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:24 am to REBEL5 AC
he's too stubborn to accept reality, but we all know if Ole Miss led the country in total defense and not scoring defense, he'd be arguing the exact opposite stance.
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