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NIL Donor Fatigue
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:01 am
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:01 am
Hopefully this link gets you past the paywall, it should. It's a long article. Georgia, Ole Miss, sheep humping sister banging fans quoted.
It definitely addresses a key issue, donor fatigue. When will enough be enough in terms of throwing money at programs who, in turn, gives it to kids who might jump ship on a whim and show no loyalty whatsoever?
The system is whackadoodle right now. It cannot sustain itself at this pace, catering-to adolescents (and their parents) with agents dictating terms to staffs, fans and programs without one iota of loyalty or esprit de corp given in return.
LINK: The Athletic https://archive.is/NKSI4
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It definitely addresses a key issue, donor fatigue. When will enough be enough in terms of throwing money at programs who, in turn, gives it to kids who might jump ship on a whim and show no loyalty whatsoever?
The system is whackadoodle right now. It cannot sustain itself at this pace, catering-to adolescents (and their parents) with agents dictating terms to staffs, fans and programs without one iota of loyalty or esprit de corp given in return.
LINK: The Athletic https://archive.is/NKSI4
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“The money overcomes the loyalty,” Paul said. “I’ll hear friends who are donors say, ‘Well, they’re hitting us up for this, can you increase your donation by 10 percent’ or whatever amount? … Where does it end?”
Jason Belzer is the founder of Student Athlete NIL agency, which advises around 50 collectives. He says donor fatigue was inevitable in the current model.
“Those people have now had to step up to pay not only the university’s regular operating costs but now the payroll of these teams,” Belzer said. “We’re now in the third year of NIL, and a lot of schools’ donors aren’t getting a return on their investment. Before you at least got your name on the building. Now you pay for the payroll, and your team doesn’t win.”
This season, Belzer estimates, at least 15 schools’ collectives will be paying more than $10 million total to their football teams. He said the median among the power conferences will be around $4 million to $5 million. That’s money that is either in addition to or in place of money that is going to traditional donations for season tickets, facilities or other things.
“I have this conversation with ADs constantly. I say you have to be ready, or you’re going to be on the wrong side of what’s about to happen,” Belzer said, meaning revenue sharing.
But in the current model, where do programs stand? In talking to several experts, who were granted anonymity to speak about these issues, the consensus is that it varies by program.
Georgia is probably in the same group as Alabama as programs that have recruited well and won recently on the field, although Alabama faces a big change as it moves forward without Nick Saban. They have built a lot of facilities during the past decade, fundraising to do so, and thus many donors might be closer to being tapped out. LSU, Clemson and other schools that went fully into the facilities race are in that boat. Teams like Georgia, however, have the added “burden” of recent success, which makes fans wonder why their collectives need the money.
Sullivan’s reluctance speaks to what the Georgias and Alabamas are up against: the lack of panic
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 6:35 am
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:06 am to scrooster
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whackadoodle
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:08 am to scrooster
Our pastime has morphed into a toxic family member from which reasonable people are now gradually distancing themselves.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:32 am to scrooster
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It cannot sustain itself at this pace, catering-to adolescents (and their parents) with agents dictating terms to staffs, fans and programs without one iota loyalty or espeit de corp given in return.
I said this when the whole NIL thing emerged and frankly I am surprised it has gotten this large. These money people are used to getting something for what they give. Giving an entitled kid a bunch of money for the short term is not very satisfying
Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:02 am to scrooster
I'm shocked this hasn't already happened. There are only so many billionaires to go around. Now they are paying hundreds of players thousands of dollars to play, and unless you are winning something significant, I can see that falling off sooner rather than later.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:08 am to scrooster
I will never give a cent to NIL. Just don't agree with it.
An athlete stipend is what should've happened. Cuz you know.. they couldn't afford food, but all the food in the $100M athletic facility is free.
An athlete stipend is what should've happened. Cuz you know.. they couldn't afford food, but all the food in the $100M athletic facility is free.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:14 am to i am dan
Not to mention the full scholarship that they equate to nothing. As someone with twin daughters graduating next year at Arkansas, I can assure you it is not nothing.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:25 am to i am dan
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An athlete stipend is what should've happened. Cuz you know.. they couldn't afford food, but all the food in the $100M athletic facility is free.
Have you seen videos of the facilities these players have access to, and the amounts of food? Yeah, none of them are hungry or missing out on anything.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:28 am to scrooster
I’m sure a lot of boosters will peace out when they give money for a 5 star and the kid never contributes.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:05 am to FairhopeTider
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I’m sure a lot of boosters will peace out when they give money for a 5 star and the kid never contributes.
Let's hope so. Let's hope we also peace out when they transfer after taking the money for one year and then leaving.
This is all so very insane.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:11 am to MosesRAB93
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As someone with twin daughters graduating next year at Arkansas, I can assure you it is not nothing.
I'm not sure how this every got muted as a "benefit". Free room, board and education is worth $100K or more, yet everyone shilling for athletes put it at $0. The closing, the food, the facilities cost millions of dollars and should have value in the overall experience of the athlete.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:21 am to BlindedMeWithScience
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Our pastime has morphed into a toxic family member from which reasonable people are now gradually distancing themselves.
Other than the memory of what it was and the habit of gamedays I pretty much detest what collegiate athletics have become.
They want to play minor league sports I'm gonna treat it like minor league baseball and ignore it.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:25 am to scrooster
The only solution is make it potentially profitable for donors. Create a LLC where each donor gets a percentage ownership based on total NIL donations fir the year and the school contractually pays the LLC a percentage of athletic/bowl/media revenue
Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:43 am to tide06
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Other than the memory of what it was and the habit of gamedays I pretty much detest what collegiate athletics have become.
They want to play minor league sports I'm gonna treat it like minor league baseball and ignore it.
I am mostly there. Stoops made a comment not long ago about having to re-recruit his players each year and how that wears on a coach. It's all about how much money you will give.
I bet Reed Sheppard stays next year at UK and I bet he will make north of $5M. More than most working adults will make in 40 years. The salaries of benefits of everyone associated with atheltics both collegeiate and professional now, are so out of whack with normal society, no wonder people are losing interest.
But, let's face it, stadiums are still full and TV contracts get richer each year, so it's not likely to change until enough interest wanes and people vote with their wallets.
I'm not against capitalism or anything, but as someone mentioned, there should have been something similar to a stipend that is equal among student athletes, but it's really just unrestricted earnings for everyone.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:47 am to scrooster
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Let's hope we also peace out when they transfer after taking the money for one year and then leaving.
You mean like Juice Wells?
Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:57 am to scrooster
It's not the money that's going to players that is the problem with NIL. It's getting no commitment in return. Show me a business model that has ever attempted this level of stupidity in sports.
It will not sustain itself. Greed will make it impossible.
It will not sustain itself. Greed will make it impossible.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:02 am to scrooster
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Let's hope we also peace out when they transfer after taking the money for one year and then leaving.
I couldn't agree more.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:17 am to scrooster
Don't give these stupid arse kids a penny. frick them. I don't care if the talent level goes down, there are plenty of kids who will play for a scholarship and be grateful. Let them go overseas. We watch because it is our school, not because of who is playing.
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:25 am to scrooster
Did people really not see this coming?
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:31 am to scrooster
The way the system is structured right now makes no sense at all. We have essentially a professional sport being governed as if it were still being played by amateurs. Athlete A can take money to play for school B, except that he cannot take it directly from the school itself. That means that all of the money that fans spend on following their team - t-shirts, tickets, and so on, plus all the money they generate by tuning in to watch their team's games - none of that can be used to pay the players on the team. So the school then has to ask the fanbase to pony up additional money to pay players so they can be competitive. How does that make any sense at all? How well would it be received if the NFL tried that stunt?
College sports is only going to survive going forward if the players are declared employees of the universities. The charade of treating them as student-athletes is going to have to end. "They just need to be treated the same as any other college student" is a fraudulent statement because they aren't the same as any other college student. Kids in college to become doctors or lawyers aren't being offered seven-figure sums to transfer to another school for a year. The old system understood this and the sit-out-for-a-year rule existed precisely because the mercenary player phenomenon had already been experienced back in the 20's and 30's. People back then were much smarter than we are now, and understood that for the system to survive the players were going to have to be restricted beyond what normal students were allowed to do. Now that we live in an idiocracy, though, everyone gets all up in their feels about how unfair it is that prima donna athletes aren't allowed to transfer whenever they want, and so they are tearing down the system to benefit the poor players. The courts, in their infinite wisdom, have ruled that players must have the same rights as any other college student. This means the only way to solve the problem is to make the players more than simply students. Yes, it will be worse than the old amateurism model. No, it will not ever be the same again as it was. But it will be better than the silly stupidity we have now, and it will allow the sport to survive.
College sports is only going to survive going forward if the players are declared employees of the universities. The charade of treating them as student-athletes is going to have to end. "They just need to be treated the same as any other college student" is a fraudulent statement because they aren't the same as any other college student. Kids in college to become doctors or lawyers aren't being offered seven-figure sums to transfer to another school for a year. The old system understood this and the sit-out-for-a-year rule existed precisely because the mercenary player phenomenon had already been experienced back in the 20's and 30's. People back then were much smarter than we are now, and understood that for the system to survive the players were going to have to be restricted beyond what normal students were allowed to do. Now that we live in an idiocracy, though, everyone gets all up in their feels about how unfair it is that prima donna athletes aren't allowed to transfer whenever they want, and so they are tearing down the system to benefit the poor players. The courts, in their infinite wisdom, have ruled that players must have the same rights as any other college student. This means the only way to solve the problem is to make the players more than simply students. Yes, it will be worse than the old amateurism model. No, it will not ever be the same again as it was. But it will be better than the silly stupidity we have now, and it will allow the sport to survive.
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