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re: Nick Saban: "Jonathan Taylor did everything we asked him to do"
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:57 am to joeyb147
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:57 am to joeyb147
quote:I didn't initiate the confrontation, Francis....I just called the blow-hard out when he did.
Look at Billy Badass over here. Mr. Internet Toughguy.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:12 am to TTsTowel
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:14 am to DawgFARKer
I think that its been a rather lively "debate"!Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:23 am to TTsTowel
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"There's really nothing else to talk about. Jonathan Taylor came here, we gave him an opportunity, it didn't work out, he failed, we're sorry, it's time to move on."
How has Saban gotten this far and failed to pick up interviewing skills? If he accepted even a little responsibility, it would have sated most of the critics.
inb4 "Saban doesn't care about his critics, and we wouldn't want it any other way". We're talking about domestic abuse. He can step down off his throne to speak honestly about an issue that important, especially given the shock waves that are still rolling through the NFL from guys like Rice and Hardy. As an ambassador for the University of Alabama, Saban handled it very poorly.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:26 am to ATLdawg25
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How has Saban gotten this far and failed to pick up interviewing skills?
He normally does very well, that was not the case yesterday. Perhaps his decline is gaining momentum.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:32 am to bona fide
Wow sorry I missed all the discussion over night. Not really.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:44 am to Korin
Wow, even Finebaum took Saban to task on his interview with the media yesterday. Finebaum actually made the most sense of anything I have heard or read on this matter.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:46 am to nicholastiger
Finebaum went full retard just like the rest of the politically correct, over sensitive crowd.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:47 am to Tuscaloosa
agreed
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:48 am to Tuscaloosa
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Finebaum went full retard just like the rest of the politically correct, over sensitive crowd.
I think if you take your crimson blinders off, you see where Saban fricked up. And the truth is that none of this matters anyway and won't make a difference in a few days. Still mangled this one.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:52 am to TheJones
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Nothing has changed," Finebaum said. "I don't understand what Nick Saban was trying to accomplish at this press conference. He had a great opportunity to show some contrition, admit that he made a mistake, but he refused to do that."
Finebaum continued not holding back on his criticism of his acquaintance.
"I think he blew it," he said. "I think it's as simple as that. I have great admiration for him, but this was an opportunity to diffuse the issue. Instead, I think he made it much worse."
Finebaum then said the University of Alabama was "embarrassed, if not humiliated" as a result of the Taylor saga. He referred to one quote in which Saban said, "I still think Jonathan is a good person," to which Finebaum followed up, "How could you possibly say that after what we know about this young
Nothing has changed," Finebaum said. "I don't understand what Nick Saban was trying to accomplish at this press conference. He had a great opportunity to show some contrition, admit that he made a mistake, but he refused to do that."
Finebaum continued not holding back on his criticism of his acquaintance.
"I think he blew it," he said. "I think it's as simple as that. I have great admiration for him, but this was an opportunity to diffuse the issue. Instead, I think he made it much worse."
Finebaum then said the University of Alabama was "embarrassed, if not humiliated" as a result of the Taylor saga. He referred to one quote in which Saban said, "I still think Jonathan is a good person," to which Finebaum followed up, "How could you possibly say that after what we know about this young
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 8:55 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:53 am to TheJones
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I think if you take your crimson blinders off, you see where Saban fricked up. And the truth is that none of this matters anyway and woke make a difference in a few days. Still mangled this one.
What I'm seeing is a whole lot of people trying to place the blame for Jonathan Taylor's actions on Nick Saban, which is really unfortunate.
As a part of him joining Alabama's team, he was required to undergo psychiatric therapy, anger management, and perform a myriad of other tasks related to his previous charges.
Is it absurd to think that maybe the fact that he was a part of the Bama program is what helped the more recent situation not be worse than it was?
Nobody is condoning the actions of Taylor.
There was no cover up. There wasn't a scandal. And Taylor didn't beat anybody up. He was charged with DV because his girlfriend had "minor injuries to her neck" and a hole through a closet door.
Nick Saban isn't responsible for Taylor's frick up.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:53 am to TTsTowel
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Nick Saban: "Jonathan Taylor did everything we asked him to do"
May as well go with the new meme: He was a good boy, on the right track, going to college.... He was doing everything we asked him to do other than the 2 domestic violence criminal charges.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:55 am to Tuscaloosa
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Nick Saban isn't responsible for Taylor's frick up.
No, he isn't. However, he is responsible for bringing a player with a history of violence onto Alabama's campus.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:56 am to TTsTowel
I'll also point out again that this thread title is incredibly deceptive and disingenuous.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:57 am to Crowknowsbest
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No, he isn't. However, he is responsible for bringing a player with a history of violence onto Alabama's campus.
Oh the horror.
The outrage would be understood if there were serious injuries involved or a Ray Rice type situation. There weren't, and it wasn't.
This is all just a bunch of posturing from people who are looking for any reason they can to criticize Nick Saban.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:57 am to Tuscaloosa
That he may not be, but he's the leader of your football team and Taylor is a member of that team. Not to make this an Auburn/Alabama thing, but a good, recent example is the whole veteran's dog bullshite story. Auburn got some bad press and Gus apologized for what happened despite conflicting reports on the issue and it not being his fault.
When you're put in charge of a brand such as Bama football, you have to take the easy way out sometime. This isn't a moral thing that I'm discussing here. Taking distraction away from the team, keeping media away, and resuming the brand is valuable. Saban didn't accomplish any of that.
When you're put in charge of a brand such as Bama football, you have to take the easy way out sometime. This isn't a moral thing that I'm discussing here. Taking distraction away from the team, keeping media away, and resuming the brand is valuable. Saban didn't accomplish any of that.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:59 am to TheJones
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When you're put in charge of a brand such as Bama football, you have to take the easy way out sometime. This isn't a moral thing that I'm discussing here. Taking distraction away from the team, keeping media away, and resuming the brand is valuable. Saban didn't accomplish any of that.
What would that have accomplished?
Is that going to hurt us in recruiting?
Has anything else been hurt? Is the football program going to be harmed because of this?
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 8:59 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:01 am to Tuscaloosa
Nobody knows, but if you just apologize and end the conversation you avoid any damages to the brand. Go to any of your business school professors at UA and they will say the same thing.
This isn't rocket science, and as a UA graduate, that's what I expect of someone representing the university that's on my degree in my office. I'm gonna have UGA fans harassing me all day about this shite
This isn't rocket science, and as a UA graduate, that's what I expect of someone representing the university that's on my degree in my office. I'm gonna have UGA fans harassing me all day about this shite
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:03 am to TheJones
Fair enough
I definitely think he could have done more in the press conference to quiet the crowd of critics.
My major beef is with the fact that Nick Saban is being painted as some sort of villain.
The hypersensitivity to domestic violence in the shadows of the Ray Rice situation is to blame, I believe. It's just really unfortunate all around.
I definitely think he could have done more in the press conference to quiet the crowd of critics.
My major beef is with the fact that Nick Saban is being painted as some sort of villain.
The hypersensitivity to domestic violence in the shadows of the Ray Rice situation is to blame, I believe. It's just really unfortunate all around.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 9:04 am
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