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Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:53 pm to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:53 pm to fibonaccisquared
I'm mean, I'm the ideal height and weight of an nfl qb and there aren't enough peds in the world to help me get there, but they could move me closer. That still doesn't change the point about discussing only height in a thread about ped use.
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:54 pm to SECdragonmaster
Why are yall getting upset that he's the right size to play CB in the NFL?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:55 pm to PearlJam
Well, I guess he just isn't good enough then.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:56 pm to thatdude1985
Maybe not. Or he was worried he wasn't. Or he just isn't very smart. Or all of the above. Lots of possibilities.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:58 pm to PearlJam
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I'm mean, I'm the ideal height and weight of an nfl qb and there aren't enough peds in the world to help me get there, but they could move me closer.
You're also not a professional athlete. Nick Marshall is not 206 and like 20-25% body fat...
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That still doesn't change the point about discussing only height in a thread about ped use.
Who was discussing height only? The original comment made was:
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Someone the size of Nick Marshall, it is worth the chance of taking PEDs and getting caught vs getting cut. Nick is a great athlete, but his size was always going to be a factor at the next level. He has hung on for two years, but I think he realized time was slipping away.
The response was simply that he's of adequate size to play the position. Height was provided, but his weight is in-line with the numbers I provided... It's not really debatable, size is not what would be preventing him from playing, so the original rationalization of PED usage was flat out misguided at best.
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:00 pm to fibonaccisquared
quote:in response to the comment
Who was discussing height only? The original comment made was:
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He's listed at 6-1. How is that not ideal size for an NFL DB. One of best young DBs in the league is Marcus Peters, and he's even at 6-foot.
Which is the comment I responded to. It isn't that hard to follow.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:01 pm to PearlJam
So it was an incomplete explanation, but it doesn't make it wrong. He *is* of sufficient size to play the position...
My commentary was in relation to your response to this one:
To which you said it was a debatable point. I've got no qualms with the comment about PEDs not making you taller. In fact, I chuckled a bit.
My commentary was in relation to your response to this one:
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It's a lame excuse because Marshall is plenty big enough to play corner in the NFL. Period.
To which you said it was a debatable point. I've got no qualms with the comment about PEDs not making you taller. In fact, I chuckled a bit.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:02 pm to fibonaccisquared
quote:I never said it was wrong. Maybe you need to go back and read. I just said it was a weird response in a discussion about ped use.
So it was an incomplete explanation, but it doesn't make it wrong. He *is* of sufficient size to play the position...
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:03 pm to Croot
NM is plenty big enough. What was the substance he took?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:04 pm to PearlJam
See update above.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:06 pm to PearlJam
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That is a weird comment in a thread discussing ped use. You know peds don't make you taller, right?
I was replying to this comment:
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his size was always going to be a factor at the next level
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:06 pm to fibonaccisquared
This argument is so simplistic. "I take PED's to get bigger"
NFL players take them for a lot of reasons...two major ones are to recover more quickly from injury or to hide the effects of a potential injury. For a guy like NM who is barely making rosters that is the difference between making the NFL minimum or working at Walmart.
NFL players take them for a lot of reasons...two major ones are to recover more quickly from injury or to hide the effects of a potential injury. For a guy like NM who is barely making rosters that is the difference between making the NFL minimum or working at Walmart.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:07 pm to Gary Busey
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I was replying to this comment:
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his size was always going to be a factor at the next level
I mean, I followed you... but apparently I'm the one that needs to go back and read.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:09 pm to Tigerman97
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This argument is so simplistic. "I take PED's to get bigger"
NFL players take them for a lot of reasons...two major ones are to recover more quickly from injury or to hide the effects of a potential injury. For a guy like NM who is barely making rosters that is the difference between making the NFL minimum or working at Walmart.
I don't disagree with you one bit. It was the original justification from iron that has sparked the conversation here... he was just wrong...
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:09 pm to Tigerman97
Nick was 6'1.5 208 heading into the draft. I remember everytime Kiser mentioned him he said scouts loved his size. No excuses for Nick as he had no need for it.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:10 pm to Gary Busey
quote:I get that, but it was in the context of ped use. I don't think height was being referred to in reference to his size. Maybe it was. It just struck me as weird.
I was replying to this comment:
Poster A: Maybe he took peds because he was too small.
Poster B: He is 6 foot 1, he doesn't need peds.
Struck me as odd.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:11 pm to TIGERSPIKE
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No excuses for Nick as he had no need for it.
See TM97's post above... it's not necessarily about size as much as it is about getting an edge.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:17 pm to fibonaccisquared
What edge could it possibly give him. He is an elite level athlete with everything needed to be successful solely based on athletic attributes. The reason he is a special teamer or 4th DB is because he is trying to learn a position at the NFL level. PEDS aren't gonna make up for years of missed development as a CB.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:26 pm to Tigerman97
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or working at Walmart.
Nah. He can always fall back on a career narrating audio books.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:39 pm to PearlJam
Maybe I misinterpreted it, but I still think the original post was wrong. Marshal has great size to be an NFL DB, so he's not at a disadvantage in the NFL because of his size.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 5:02 pm
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