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re: Nice try, Aggies, but that game sucked
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:09 am to Teague
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:09 am to Teague
Is our defense fantastic? No.
Is aTm's offense fricking incredible? I think so.
I think our D is somewhere in between Really good and pretty good.
Room to improve? Sure. Looking forward to seeing this unit grow.
Is aTm's offense fricking incredible? I think so.
I think our D is somewhere in between Really good and pretty good.
Room to improve? Sure. Looking forward to seeing this unit grow.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:10 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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quote: Going after Manziel just turns all those passing yards into rushing yards. Then you're double fricked because at least when he is throwing balls up for grabs you end up getting a couple of picks
If that shitty secondary cant get more picks out of all those Hail Marys, then they aren't getting any more regardless.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:15 am to AUsteriskPride
You can't double team Evans because our other WRs are too good. Doing that will only allow the other guys to go uncovered, which is a really bad idea. Against an offense like ours, you have to pick your poison and hope it works out because there isn't a weakness you can exploit.
Powerhouse offenses are the future of football. A great Spread offense with great players really can't be stopped and if the system gets good enough it becomes plug and play for QBs. Notthat great QBs won't make a big difference, but the difference will get smaller and smaller over time because the next QB won't play until he is a junior or senior and will have had years in the system.
Powerhouse offenses are the future of football. A great Spread offense with great players really can't be stopped and if the system gets good enough it becomes plug and play for QBs. Notthat great QBs won't make a big difference, but the difference will get smaller and smaller over time because the next QB won't play until he is a junior or senior and will have had years in the system.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:19 am to Jobu93
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you can't chew much clock against our defense right now when you are averaging close to 8 yds/carry. You score some points too quickly.
...and then out comes our offense.
There was a point when it was like 14-14 and they showed how many plays each team had run and A&M had like 36 and we had around 16 and the initial thought is "yeah, that's not that great" until you realize we didn't have many plays partially because we kept gaining 15 yards a snap
That game sucked though. Seemed like it took forever, can't remember a game I just wanted to end more.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:21 am to Vander
When a quarterback can make pinpoint throws and force your safeties to respect his running, ALL your receivers look like Jerry Rice.
I really hate the Manziel hype and think he's a little douche, but calling him anything other than a remarkable quarterback would be lying.
Traditionally, we've had some remarkable dual threat qb's in college football, but I can't think of one that had his accuracy AND his legs. Having this combination is nothing new, but being this level at both is unique.
I really hate the Manziel hype and think he's a little douche, but calling him anything other than a remarkable quarterback would be lying.
Traditionally, we've had some remarkable dual threat qb's in college football, but I can't think of one that had his accuracy AND his legs. Having this combination is nothing new, but being this level at both is unique.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:22 am to Crede15
it wasn't fun to watch on our side either.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:23 am to AUsteriskPride
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Welcome to the new style of college football. You should probably get used to more 400+ yard games
How much do the new rules that protect offensive players affect the yards given up?
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:27 am to AUsteriskPride
Good luck with that. I don't see another Manziel on the schedule.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:31 am to Teague
I enjoyed it.I think Saban knew Maziel would escape no matter how many he sent.So most of the game I believe he had C.J. Moseley chasing him and at least 5-6 DBs.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:32 am to Crimson Legend
Johnny Football does throw a great rock. Some of his throws were thrown in tight spots too. Many times Saturday, the ball was thrown where only the receiver had a chance. Plus Johnny is one of the best, throwing on the run, QB's I've seen in my lifetime. One isn't suppose to have consistent accuracy while on the move. Could cause for a bad game result, if Johnny if off the slightest bit though.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:35 am to SquirrelyBama
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Johnny Football does throw a great rock. Some of his throws were thrown in tight spots too. Many times Saturday, the ball was thrown where only the receiver had a chance. Plus Johnny is one of the best, throwing on the run, QB's I've seen in my lifetime. One isn't suppose to have consistent accuracy while on the move. Could cause for a bad game result, if Johnny if off the slightest bit though.
Exactly. He doesn't match what we try to do, and I'm not jealous. But when it comes to trying to stop a player, I don't remember in my lifetime having this much trouble, Cam included. I hope he's an anomaly, because this isn't what I want football to become. I like the strategy side as much as the athleticism. He is something else, though...for the second year in a row, he turns a certain sack into a huge play against us.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:37 am to Teague
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my Alabama mindset will not allow me to enjoy any game where the opposition is moving the ball at will.
I can completely sympathize with you there. It's always hard to watch a shootout that your team is involved in, even if your team comes out on top. It's tough to see all those yards and TDs being scored almost at will by the opposition - regardless of whether or not each score is being matched.
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It was disgusting. It's pretty obvious that our CB's can't cover Evans one on one.
I'm worried about Evans as well. He is a stud, that's for sure. I am hoping Rashard Robinson has come into his own by that time. At 6'2, he's our best bet to match up with Evans.
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After all is said and done, I really think it would have been better just to go after Manziel on every play. He might escape, but if they're scoring on every drive anyway, I don't see much difference.
As much as people may dislike him, you have to respect what he is capable of producing on the field. He was lights out on Saturday - other than a few errant throws.
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I think LSU might match up a little better against A&M, although, admittedly, I don't know much about their CB's this year.
LSU's offense is evidently better. It's hard to gauge where the defense is at this point. The CBs have gotten beat on a handful of plays, by lesser opponents, but they are very, very young. Mills started as a true freshman last year, and at this point, is our best corner. Collins got solid PT last year, but has struggled at times, and was replaced by true freshman Tre'Davious White (who will be our best corner by the season's end, IMO). Rashard Robinson, another true freshman, is an interesting case... he was just cleared to play less than a few weeks ago, and is already receiving significant playing time. This shows how natural of a talent he is. Dwayne Thomas, a RS Freshman, has also received valuable PT.
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Also, as bad as our defense looked in that game, A&M's was 10 times worse.
Agreed. It's not like Bama was out there surrendering all that yardage to any old offense. A&M's offense is a Top 3 offense in the country.
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I'm not saying Bama's defense will be bad against the rest of the SEC. It was just a gameplan that didn't really work.
LSU will surely test them, as will Ole Miss next week. But aside from those two, it should be smooth sailing for the Tide.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:38 am to Crimson Legend
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because this isn't what I want football to become
I'm a guy perfectly happy with a 9-6 final score, as I love a suffocating defense. It's going the way of the dinosaur, though.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:39 am to Teague
quote:If you look at Saban's defenses, one of the things you will notice is that he hedges his bets by trying to take away every route on the field but the 30 yard route down the sidelines which is the lowest percentage throw in CFB. Very few college QBs can make that throw and you will notice that every close game/lose we have be in other than the LSU games was against teams who had great/Heisman-level QB play. When Manziel needed Evans, he went to him down the sideline which is theoretically where our defense is weakest.
I think Saban's defense for this game is a good idea in theory, but on the field, maybe not so much. If we'd had a big, shut down corner, maybe.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:40 am to brewhan davey
I like LSU's chances, if they don't get shellshocked early. If A&M can make you one dimensional playing catch-up, you're in serious trouble. If you can control the tempo with your run game, I think the tiger defense will get enough stops like we did.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:41 am to Vander
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A great Spread offense with great players really can't be stopped
There are two keys to stopping ATM's attack, and both are at the DL.
1. You have to get pressure up the middle to disrupt the QB's timing. Alabama got NO PUSH the entire game. This, even more than poor DB play, is what killed Bama's D. You can get away with less than stellar DB play if your DL is in the QB's face.
2. The DEs must be disciplined and maintain the edge. Too often on Saturday, the Bama DEs rushed inside, and that allowed that little punk QB to get outside. Once outside, the secondary has to decide whether to stay in coverage or break off to defend the scramble.
On the few plays where the DEs maintained the edge, the defense made plays.
All that said, I still think Bama's defense looked surprisingly slow and got pushed around. There were way too many running plays where the ATM ball carrier wasn't touched for five or more yards downfield.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:43 am to Crimson Legend
No doubt, it's like catching a chicken. Saban needs to recuit some of those south florida HS football players that chase chickens for practice. Just in case more Johnny's come about in the future.
To catch a Chicken, you must use a Chicken
To catch a Chicken, you must use a Chicken
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:44 am to Weaver
quote:exactly. Id rather spy Manziel and take my chances on him hitting backshoulder throws to a tower of a receiver. It was a well planned game on both sides. 1 or 2 plays made the difference in the longrun. The turnovers cost both teams a chance to really turn up the pressure
Game plan is to run the ball and chew clock. U have to score regardless. Rather give them less time than more obviously. That should be the gameplan.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:52 am to mtntiger
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Alabama got NO PUSH the entire game.
Disagree. They got as much pass rush as Saban wanted.
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There were way too many running plays where the ATM ball carrier wasn't touched for five or more yards downfield.
Manziel is the only "RB" for A&M that averaged more than 3.8 ypc. So, I'd say, "false" to that also.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 7:59 am to BadgerPete
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You need chavis or Florida to stop Manziel
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