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Posted by graves1
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:03 pm to
Personal attacks and then you leave. And I'm the troll.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:07 pm to
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It's no different than labeling someone a bust because of injury IMO. While it may not be exactly fair it's the truth. When a player comes in and underperforms,for any reason, they are a bust. That's just the way I view it.


So you make no intellectual distinction between someone who just isn't a good pro and someone who is a victim of circumstances? Harsh. I get both are equally useless to their team if they're not on the field, but you might as well call any Pro Bowler who misses a season due to injury a temporary "bust." The difference between actual busts and injured/misused players is that the injured/misused players can actually produce in the future if the problem is fixed.
Posted by All4Qtrs
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:07 pm to
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graves1


Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:09 pm to
Good movie.
Posted by My Daddy
You Mom's Bed
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:11 pm to
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It was hand timed.....


So the other dude was incorrect, but still fast as frick.
Thanks
Posted by All4Qtrs
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:12 pm to
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Good movie.

definitely


but dont change the subject no one calls Bo a bust with these stats, which btw doesnt do his performance on the field NO JUSTICE

LINK
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:18 pm to
When he played the NFL was a run first league. Stats not that great. And I get he was injured. But according to the bust standards, he was a bust.
Posted by MetryTyger
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:23 pm to
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raves1
NFL Bust


What are the guidelines used to determine a player being called a Bust?




1. Must have matriculated (ostensibly) at the University of Alabumma.
Posted by My Daddy
You Mom's Bed
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:23 pm to
Wasn't the "Boz" a bust? If so, how did Bo getting tackled by him, (even though Bo scored) equate to accomplishing something special?
Posted by All4Qtrs
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:27 pm to
I think you dont understand what the bust standards are... he and Oakland knew he would get limited play time and carries... he was not intended to come and be the premier back he was intended to be the guy that came in and fricked shite up

there is no way a bust would be considered by almost everyone except you and UGA fans as tGOAT of athletes
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:29 pm to
How can Bosworth be a bust? He had good stats got injured then left the game after two years.
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:31 pm to
I think he was great. That's why I used Bo for my example.
Posted by My Daddy
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:31 pm to
That's just what I've always read about him.
A good college player, but not so much in the Pros.
Posted by All4Qtrs
tCapitol
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:33 pm to
just an example but heres another


"My Bo Jackson Moment"
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:33 pm to
Brian Bosworth was number six on espn all time bust. But when health he was good. Only played like two years.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:35 pm to
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How can Bosworth be a bust? He had good stats got injured then left the game after two years.


Because his injuries came from steroid-pumped conditioning. Entirely on him.
Posted by All4Qtrs
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
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That's just what I've always read about him.
A good college player, but not so much in the Pros


no youre right but the difference between him and Bo is that he hyped himself up called out players then didnt amount to anything

when Boz entered the draft he was the highest paid rookie in not only seattle but also the entire league at the time big difference in "EXPECTATIONS" from coaches and fans
Posted by JackVincennes
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
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I am going to assume you were talking about first round players. For a first round player, I think a reasonable expectation for a rookie season is that he should be a starter by the end of the year. The learning curve from college football to the NFL is pretty steep and takes some time. By year 2, they should be a full time starter and starting to separate themselves from others in their draft class. By years 3 and 4, they should be someone the opposing coaches have to take into account on every play and be challenging for a place in the top 10 players at their position. The team they play for should choose to exercise their 5th year option on them.

This is a really good description of the expectations of a first rounder.
Posted by My Daddy
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
I'm not doubting Bo's greatness, because he was a bad mofo. I even had some of his Raiders shoes. But, him stiff arming a notoriously bad tackler like Sanders is not a good example.
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
Liked I said and was mocked for earlier. I have met him. Super guy. He wouldn't know me if I saw him today. But when you talk to him you would think you are his best friend. One of the best athletes ever. But, going by standards used for bust, he would be a bust.
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