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Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:50 pm to BowlJackson
Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:50 pm to BowlJackson
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Well that's different. Vanderbilt is a prestigious academic institution and were focused on their academic reputation.
His point stands.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:51 pm to Reservoir dawg
Lets see, MSU sucks and so does it's coach.
Remind me again what Malzhan's record is against MSU?
Reflect upon this prior to making yourself look even more foolish.
Remind me again what Malzhan's record is against MSU?
Reflect upon this prior to making yourself look even more foolish.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:51 pm to Reservoir dawg
Lets see, MSU sucks and so does it's coach.
Remind me again what Malzhan's record is against MSU?
Reflect upon this prior to making yourself look even more foolish.
Remind me again what Malzhan's record is against MSU?
Reflect upon this prior to making yourself look even more foolish.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 9:56 pm to Reservoir dawg
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And went 5/5 against Auburn's cheaters in the 90's and cheated less.
I'm sorry, but how many times have y'all been busted and put on probation since the last time Auburn cheated in 1992?
And thank God MSU was able to go .500 against Auburn in the 90's. Without that the all-time series record may have gotten out of hand. Now you're a respectable 26-62-2 against Auburn
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Coordinators? Who the hell are you talking about?
You said you hired "an actual proven coach" in response to me asking why if you started caring 25 years ago are you only just now in the last 5 years mediocre in football.
So you're talking about Dan Mullen? The guy who was OC at Florida when you hired him and had never been a HC in his career before Starville. That is your "actual proven coach"?
Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:01 pm to Reservoir dawg
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That would make Auburn a step above Jones Junior College.
LINK
According to US News list of Best Colleges, Auburn is #5 academically in the SEC and Mississippi State is dead last.
Maybe you should try some research sometime
Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:26 pm to BowlJackson
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I'm sorry, but how many times have y'all been busted and put on probation since the last time Auburn cheated in 1992?
2009/10, for sure. It's in you nature to cheat, you have Bama as your rival.
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You said you hired "an actual proven coach" in response to me asking why if you started caring 25 years ago are you only just now in the last 5 years mediocre in football.
We hired Jackie Sherrill in 1991, and he was a proven HC. It was a huge step in the right direction. Mullen was hired at the end of 2008, yes a coordinator and a great mind on offense.
Getting to a ranking of #1 is above mediocre, although we've had mediocre seasons, not unlike almost everyone else including Auburn.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:35 pm to BowlJackson
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According to US News list of Best Colleges, Auburn is #5 academically in the SEC and Mississippi State is dead last.
You realize they change criteria almost every year, and it comes down to money. Who's spending what, where, and how much is endowed at that school. That's it. Rankings change every year. I mean, Auburn isn't even an R1 research school according to " Carnegie Ranking."
Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:42 pm to Reservoir dawg
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You realize they change criteria almost every year
Well good thing that list is from 2017 then
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and it comes down to money.
Try not to be so poor then, peasant.
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That's it. Rankings change every year.
But one constant that doesn't change about these rankings is Mississippi State being ranked dead last in the SEC.
You would be hard pressed to find any ranking from any year that doesn't have Mississippi State at the very bottom of the SEC. And if you do it's only because Ole Miss is last and MSU will still be second to last.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:51 pm to Reservoir dawg
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2009/10, for sure. It's in you nature to cheat, you have Bama as your rival.
Link? We haven't received sanctions since before 1993. Y'all have been busted what, twice, since Cam left Auburn?
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We hired Jackie Sherrill in 1991, and he was a proven HC. It was a huge step in the right direction
If you were talking about Sherrill then perhaps you should apply to a school outside of Mississippi and work on your reading comprehension.
But yes, Sherrill was a good coach and proven. A proven cheat. His tenure at Texas A&M ended remarkably similar to how his time in Starkville ended. Being forced to resign after getting the program busted for cheating and put on probation.
When State hired Sherrill he hadn't been a coach anywhere, at any level, in any capacity for 3 years because nobody else was desperate enough to hire a known cheat.
But yeah, I guess that is a "huge step in the "right" direction" for a program like Mississippi State that embraces cheating so much, even though you can't even rise above mediocre while doing it.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 10:56 pm to BowlJackson
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But one constant that doesn't change about these rankings is Mississippi State being ranked dead last in the SEC
For one year, in one ranking. Means absolutely nothing. I mean, according to the "Carnegie Classification" Ole Miss is a higher research activity school than MSU and Auburn. Now..you don't really believe that do you? Ya think some of this may be based on an agenda or politically selective criterion?
There are no poor SEC institutions. Even Kim Jong Un could tell you that.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:04 pm to Dellort
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Or is there just some anti-clutch maroon gene?
A&M's won 11 in the last decade. Don't put it on the color.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:06 pm to Cheese Grits
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Rebs have not gotten to Runner Up yet so for now State owns tLandmass
Ole Miss has won three national championships in football...
Also have had a runner up in tennis not that anyone cares much about tennis anyway
This post was edited on 4/2/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:06 pm to BowlJackson
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When State hired Sherrill he hadn't been a coach anywhere, at any level, in any capacity for 3 years because nobody else was desperate enough to hire a known cheat.
You're desperately trying to cherry pick for points here. Desperately trying. If you asked people which of SEC West schools had the most notorious reputation for cheating, Auburn would be in the top 2. Everyone knows that.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:54 pm to Reservoir dawg
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You're desperately trying to cherry pick for points here. Desperately trying.
Please explain to me how I am cherry picking? I'm not sure you understand what that means. I'm posting facts and nothing but facts. There is no alternative to what I'm posting, it is what happened. That is actually the exact opposite of cherry picking.
Your language suggests the only thing desperate ITT is you. Desperately trying to deflect from how bad your school is athletically and academically by desperately trying to point fingers elsewhere, desperately trying to compare yourself to other schools to make your own not seem so bad, and then desperately trying to come up with excuses as to why you are so bad when none of that works.
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If you asked people which of SEC West schools had the most notorious reputation for cheating, Auburn would be in the top 2. Everyone knows that.
Right on cue with the deflections and finger pointing.
I wouldn't expect you to understand this, but people hate winners. Outside of Bama nobody has had as much success or really any relevant recent success other than Auburn. Doesn't help our likability that in the last 3 years we've handed every other team in the SEC West not named Bama a complete and utter blowout beat down.
We're a medium sized school, our campus is in the country, and we don't carry the name of our state. Other than Clemson we are fairly unique in that aspect for successful CFB programs (and we are better historically than Clemson) so we aren't supposed to be as good as we are. People see us winning the toughest conference in the country while the school they root for which is the flagship of their their state isn't getting it done so they compensate and make excuses for their own shortcomings by saying we must be cheating.
The REALITY is that despite a fruitless investigation 7 years ago (tipped off by MSU, hmm wonder why) Auburn football has not been placed on probation in 25 years. Meanwhile nearly every other SEC football program has been placed on probation in just the last 10 years. Some of them more than once in the last 10 years. Hell, in the 25 years that Auburn has been clean from trouble, Mississippi State has probably spent close to half that time on probation.
But we're the ones that cheat? Its seriously laughable at this point. If you keep saying it long enough and keep yourself in good health then maybe the next time Auburn does something you can gather your grandkids around the trailer and tell them about the last time those cheaters in Auburn got caught back when you were their age
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Ya think some of this may be based on an agenda or politically selective criterion?
And now there's some political conspiracy agenda to keep Mississippi State down?
Don't worry bro, next time I see MSU ranked dead last academically I won't listen to the media. Everybody who isn't steeple knows that Mississippi State is the true Harvard of the South, not Vanderbilt
Illuminati CONFIRMED
This post was edited on 4/2/17 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 4/2/17 at 11:57 pm to Reservoir dawg
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You're desperately trying to cherry pick for points here. Desperately trying. If you asked people which of SEC West schools had the most notorious reputation for cheating, Auburn would be in the top 2. Everyone knows that.
Sounds like you're still mad that Cam chose AU over MSU.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:22 am to BowlJackson
You've still cheated more historically than MSU, in the number of years under probation, and bowl banned seasons. We had 8 Schollys and a 1 year bowl ban from Sherrill '98-02. We had a small scholarship penalty with our recruitment of Will Redmond, about 4 or so years ago.
How do you explain Cecil Newton paying tens of thousands in badly needed building renovations of his church and other structures to keep the city from condemning the property, after his son became an Auburn football player?
Hint- it didn't come from the Jacksonville Jaguars.
How do you explain Cecil Newton paying tens of thousands in badly needed building renovations of his church and other structures to keep the city from condemning the property, after his son became an Auburn football player?
Hint- it didn't come from the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:30 am to Reservoir dawg
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How do you explain Cecil Newton paying tens of thousands in badly needed building renovations of his church and other structures to keep the city from condemning the property, after his son became an Auburn football player?
Why don't you ask the FBI or IRS who helped the NCAA look into it? Clearly it was a legitimate source or you would have heard more about it. A church coming up with donations is not some earth shattering evidence of wrong doing. It's actually a common daily occurrence at churches all over the world. Sorry to burst your tinfoil conspiracy balloon
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:39 am to BowlJackson
$50,000 USD? Hell, I'll bet I could go find several churches in the region that could use that donation.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 12:47 am to Reservoir dawg
It's sad that you know details like how much Cecil Newton's church got in donations in 2010.
I can't even comprehend the level of scorned butthurt that it would take to be that obsessed with a recruit my school missed out on that you would still know that 7 years later.
I bet you were a regular in the ATPB thread.
But like I said, the FBI, IRS, and NCAA all found that money to have come from a legitimate source or sources. But Missisiipi State fans have a "feeling" about it, so clearly the NCAA and federal government are in on the conspiracy to cover up for Auburn and keep Mississippi State down, amirite?
I can't even comprehend the level of scorned butthurt that it would take to be that obsessed with a recruit my school missed out on that you would still know that 7 years later.
I bet you were a regular in the ATPB thread.
But like I said, the FBI, IRS, and NCAA all found that money to have come from a legitimate source or sources. But Missisiipi State fans have a "feeling" about it, so clearly the NCAA and federal government are in on the conspiracy to cover up for Auburn and keep Mississippi State down, amirite?
Posted on 4/3/17 at 1:24 am to BowlJackson
Sad? No, that is universally known and reiterates the point that you don't even know the basic info for the sake of your own argument. I don't know if you can argue your point on any topic. If so, I have yet to see it. I kinda have my doubts that you know what's going on.
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 1:26 am
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