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re: Miss State LB Leo Lewis received $21,000 before National Signing Day from 2 SEC schools
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:52 pm to TJGator1215
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:52 pm to TJGator1215
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The NCAA isn't sweeping the fact that you guys paid $
Fact?
This is getting tiresome
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:02 pm to pankReb
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FWIW MSU was still on probation when Leo signed. Throwing that out there.
Pank, you are correct. MSU's probation for Redmond ran from June 7, 2013 to June 6, 2015. He was paid in February, 2015.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:03 pm to Serraneaux
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lolMiss and lolState
Uh...you might want to tread lightly. Two words: Jonathan Kongbo.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:08 pm to Vecchio Cane
No, but it might prove the NCAA didn't do due diligence. Like I said, ole miss won't
benefit but RR just might.
benefit but RR just might.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:15 pm to Vecchio Cane
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Fact?
Are you slow? Your OWN PLAYER admitted in testimony that he received $11,000 from your University. There is a recording of his mother saying the MSU offered $80k. He also says OM offered $10K. So - follow me here. If you believe he got $10k from OM to NOT sign there, then you would also have to believe he would have received the $11K from the school he DID sign with.
Just circumstantial evidence you say? Well then you would have to say the same thing about the alleged $10k payment.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:17 pm to Daviskenn
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Are you slow?
Hats off to Godfrey. He's flushed the lurkers out so that we can all enjoy this level of myopia.
Shine on Davis, tell us again about the recording
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:17 pm to SXV
Is that entire state fricking stupid or something?
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:18 pm to Texas Weazel
Well....yeah.
Next question
Next question
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:27 pm to Daviskenn
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There is a recording of his mother saying the MSU offered $80k.
And yet has never surfaced in public and isn't part of either the NCAA case or OM defense.
You're going to crash hard when reality sinks in.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:29 pm to JustGetItRight
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And yet has never surfaced in public and isn't part of either the NCAA case or OM defense.
You're going to crash hard when reality sinks in.
You are SO misinformed. It absolutely exists, has been given to the NCAA and is most definitely part of OM's defense...you need to stop listening to Kevin Scarbinsky.
I assume you didn't bother to read the article? It's prominently mentioned there. Try again.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:30 pm to Texas Weazel
This is MSU we're talking about. At the end of the day, they will have brought us both down.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:32 pm to Daviskenn
I read the actual documents. You know, the ones that will actually be used on 9/11. You should try it too.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:32 pm to Daviskenn
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Just circumstantial evidence you say? Well then you would have to say the same thing about the alleged $10k payment.
Do you mean the alleged payment that the NCAA has text messages between Farrar and a booster where the booster says I wasted 10K?
Or are you talking about another one?
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:32 pm to JustGetItRight
"Counsel for Ole Miss submitted the video to the NCAA on Nov. 18, the same day of Leo’s second interview. In addition, an audio tape of an alleged conversation between Farrar and Lewis’ mother, Tina Henderson, was submitted by Farrar’s counsel after the November interview. In the audio tape, recorded on Feb. 2, 2015, a day before Lewis says Allen paid him $10,000 to sign with Ole Miss, Henderson allegedly told Farrar that she had received multiple cash offers for Lewis, including $650,000 from LSU and $80,000 from Mississippi State.
In the third meeting, Lewis confirmed his identity in the Snapchat video submitted by Ole Miss. Sheridan asked Brady and Lewis to listen to the tape alleging cash offers from LSU and Mississippi State and asked Leo, “were you personally offered any money from a school other than Ole Miss?”
At that moment, Brady requested to go off the record. When the meeting resumed, Lewis confirmed the questions.
“Yes sir,” he told Sheridan.
Lewis confirmed his mother was offered and received money as well, at which point the NCAA requested to go off the record. Then the meeting resumed.
“We’re not going to spend a ton of time on this next point, Leo, but I need to ask these questions, and then we’ll move on. What school or schools offered money during your recruitment?” Sheridan asks.
Lewis named the school, which was then redacted by the NCAA. In its August 16 letter to the COI, counsel for Ole Miss claims that the redacted institution is Mississippi State:
“Although the name of this other institution was redacted in the material provided to the University and other involved parties in this case, it has since come to light that the institution Mr. Lewis identified was Mississippi State University (“Mississippi State”).”
Sheridan asked Lewis which schools offered money to Henderson and which schools she took money from. Lewis’ answers are all redacted. Lewis told the NCAA he received $11,000, $1,000 up front and $10,000 shortly after National Signing Day, all from the redacted school.
Lewis told the NCAA he had received both payments by the time of filming, but used the Ole Miss money for the Snapchat video. He said the payments were kept in a drawer in his home, separated from each other."
In the third meeting, Lewis confirmed his identity in the Snapchat video submitted by Ole Miss. Sheridan asked Brady and Lewis to listen to the tape alleging cash offers from LSU and Mississippi State and asked Leo, “were you personally offered any money from a school other than Ole Miss?”
At that moment, Brady requested to go off the record. When the meeting resumed, Lewis confirmed the questions.
“Yes sir,” he told Sheridan.
Lewis confirmed his mother was offered and received money as well, at which point the NCAA requested to go off the record. Then the meeting resumed.
“We’re not going to spend a ton of time on this next point, Leo, but I need to ask these questions, and then we’ll move on. What school or schools offered money during your recruitment?” Sheridan asks.
Lewis named the school, which was then redacted by the NCAA. In its August 16 letter to the COI, counsel for Ole Miss claims that the redacted institution is Mississippi State:
“Although the name of this other institution was redacted in the material provided to the University and other involved parties in this case, it has since come to light that the institution Mr. Lewis identified was Mississippi State University (“Mississippi State”).”
Sheridan asked Lewis which schools offered money to Henderson and which schools she took money from. Lewis’ answers are all redacted. Lewis told the NCAA he received $11,000, $1,000 up front and $10,000 shortly after National Signing Day, all from the redacted school.
Lewis told the NCAA he had received both payments by the time of filming, but used the Ole Miss money for the Snapchat video. He said the payments were kept in a drawer in his home, separated from each other."
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:37 pm to 1msudawg
It says nothing of the sort. It said "we had a deal." And "I can't believe you would do this."
In a court of law, none of this would amount to anything. But this is the NCAA. Do I believe we had a booster offer money? Hell yeah. If you don't understand that's how this shite operates, you're naive. Do I think he actually got paid before he signed. Uh...no.
Here's the sticky point for you, though. He also took money from one of YOUR boosters. He admitted it. It's in the transcript. So, if the COI believes the testimony of this kid that he got money for NOT signing with OM, they're going to have to explain why it's NOT credible to believe his testimony about the school he DID sign with. That's a pretty big issue for you.
In a court of law, none of this would amount to anything. But this is the NCAA. Do I believe we had a booster offer money? Hell yeah. If you don't understand that's how this shite operates, you're naive. Do I think he actually got paid before he signed. Uh...no.
Here's the sticky point for you, though. He also took money from one of YOUR boosters. He admitted it. It's in the transcript. So, if the COI believes the testimony of this kid that he got money for NOT signing with OM, they're going to have to explain why it's NOT credible to believe his testimony about the school he DID sign with. That's a pretty big issue for you.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:39 pm to JustGetItRight
You're in over your head. I just copied and pasted information that says it has been directly submitted to the NCAA...and it directly refutes what you're saying.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:47 pm to Daviskenn
It's only a sticky issue for MSU if the NCAA makes it one. Now why would
they give MSU preferential treatment ? They wanted Freeze at all costs.
They had enough to punish Ole Miss and Ole Miss is at their mercy . RR
doesn't however have to accept being disassociated. My guess is that the
NCAA drops LL testimony but still hammers Ole Miss and doesn't require
Ole Miss to disassociate RR. Easiest path forward for the NCAA.
they give MSU preferential treatment ? They wanted Freeze at all costs.
They had enough to punish Ole Miss and Ole Miss is at their mercy . RR
doesn't however have to accept being disassociated. My guess is that the
NCAA drops LL testimony but still hammers Ole Miss and doesn't require
Ole Miss to disassociate RR. Easiest path forward for the NCAA.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:48 pm to Daviskenn
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The enforcement staff asserts that the message clearly shows referencing his meeting withthat day and belief they had arranged terms securing commitment to the institution. The messagealso shows expressing surprise and dismay in reading online that was flirting with otherschools and he likely had wasted $10,000
Page 85 in the NCAA rebuttal.
Here is a link to the rebuttal if you need it. NCAA doc
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:49 pm to Daviskenn
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including $650,000 from LSU
Wait I thought we were bankrupt? Sure seems believable
Posted on 8/25/17 at 4:54 pm to TigahJay
Just morally like the rest of the SEC.
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