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re: Matt Canada is one of the most overrated coordinators in college football

Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:48 am to
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In fact I remember him at Wisconsin in 2012 or 2013. Their offense put up a whopping 7 points in a loss to Oregon State. Only 16 on Utah State, 14 on Ohio State and Wisconsin had a record of something like 7-6. If I were LSU, I would hire Greg Roman. He is who ran Harbaugh's Stanford and 49er offense and put up huge offensive displays.


He's an improvement, but I'd be cautiously optimistic.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123612 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:53 am to
SPIN SPIN SPIN
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:54 am to
Remember when you threw a hissy fit and said you were quitting tRant? lol
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:58 am to
quote:

I'd be cautiously optimistic.



Allow me to introduce you to the LSU fan base - where there is no such thing as "cautious optimism":

LINK
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:01 am to
quote:

Allow me to introduce you to the LSU fan base - where there is no such thing as "cautious optimism":

cam cameron was a "home run hire" just three short years ago
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29179 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:04 am to
Aranda is the associate head coach. You really don't think orgeron consulted with one of the best defensive minds in college football about a good OC?
Posted by speedbump032
The Chuck
Member since Sep 2015
130 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:48 am to
"will seem like a bad OC under Orgeron."
You have O confused with Less Miles. Miles is the one who cuckold his OC's
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75853 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:07 am to
quote:

QBs under Canada:

1994-1995: Chris Dittoe (Detroit)
1996: Eli Stoddard
1997: Chris Finlen (New Orleans)
1998: Craig Harmon
1999-2001: Chris Finlen (New Orleans)
2002-2003: Josh Haldi (Cincinnati)
2004: Matt LoVecchio (New York Giants)
2005: Blake Powers
2006-2008: Kellen Lewis
2009-2010: Ben Chappell
2011: Tre Roberson (Minnesota)
2012: Nate Sudfeld (Washington)
2013: Chandler Harnish (Indianapolis)
2014-2015: Jacoby Brissett (New England)
2016: Nate Peterman


So, what, two combined NFL starts from this crew after the starting QB for the Patriots was suspended for four games and the backup got injured?

Matt Canada may be an excellent coordinator but I wouldn't trot this crew out to support that argument.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:09 am to
Dude why do you even GAF
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:10 am to
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Matt Canada may be an excellent coordinator but I wouldn't trot this crew out to support that argument.


Unless the argument is that he got the most production possible out of limited talent at the QB position.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9746 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Dave Aranda wants Canada then I want Canada, plain and simple.

I bet Aranda knows a little bit more about football than you.




What about Coach 0eaux, funny seems like the DCoordinater opinion is more respected than the Head Coach.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:11 am to
quote:

So, what, two combined NFL starts from this crew after the starting QB for the Patriots was suspended for four games and the backup got injured?

yes because getting NFL talent to Northern Illinois, Indiana, and Butler is cake. He was at Wisconsin for 1 year, he played with who he was given. And NC State he coached Jacoby Brissett, a Florida retread, into getting drafted. But, by all means, enjoy spinning his career into whatever you want it to portray
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 10:11 am
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85795 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:12 am to
quote:

So, what, two combined NFL starts from this crew after the starting QB for the Patriots was suspended for four games and the backup got injured?


How many NFL starts for Saban QB's?

Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75853 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:15 am to
quote:

How many NFL starts for Saban QB's?


AJ McCarron has more NFL starts than that entire list.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:16 am to
quote:

How many NFL starts for Saban QB's?

Saban QBs have started a combined 4 games in his 10 year career at Alabama, all due to injury of the starter.

If you include LSU, Matt Mauck had 1, Rohan Davey 0, Josh Booty 0, and Marcus Randall had a couple...at defensive back.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 10:18 am
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:17 am to
Because he is the best X and O man on staff
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75853 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Saban QBs have started a combined 4 games in his 10 year career at Alabama.

If you include LSU, Matt Mauck had 1, Rohan Davey 0, Josh Booty 0, and Marcus Randall had a couple...at defensive back.


And Saban is a defensive coach. Not an offensive coordinator.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:19 am to
quote:

And Saban is a defensive coach. Not an offensive coordinator.

so what you're saying is that Saban doesn't know how to hire OCs that develop QBs into NFL players either? That was, after all, your premise as to why Canada isn't a good hire.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 10:21 am
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:20 am to
Thank you for an honest post

Guys do evolve and coordinators can be hindered by HC at times

Good thing is he didn't make his success off any brilliant offensive minded HCs

It's silly to nitpick a coach earlier on at a particular school
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72176 posts
Posted on 12/14/16 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Saban QBs have started a combined 4 games in his 10 year career at Alabama, all due to injury of the starter.


Mike Shula QBs had 10 career NFL starts.
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