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re: LSU's Pride and Joy Has Fallen.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 1:49 pm to FreddieMac
Posted on 9/21/16 at 1:49 pm to FreddieMac
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There is a whole lot of penis envy on this board.
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:23 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Why you so ignorant?
When I graduated in 1990, LSU was ranked 12th in all-time win%.
After Saban's last season at LSU, 2004, the Tigers were ranked 16th in all-time win%.
After last season LSU was ranked 12th in all-time win%.
In 1990 LSU was 4th in SEC championships behind UA, UT and UGA.
After Saban LSU was 4th in SEC championships behind UA, UT and UGA.
From about 1936 to 1965, LSU had the second largest stadium in the SEC behind Tulane, from 1965-1970 it was the largest. In 1990, Tiger Stadium was the 4th largest stadium in the SEC, today it is 3rd.
LSU has been pretty consistent through their history. And through it all, Tiger Stadium has been consistently one of the best venues in the conference.
Why are you so touchy?
I didn't say LSU was a bad program. It was just nothing special. By your own statement, it was 4th in a 10 team conference. If you include the post-expansion/pre-Saban years it certainly was behind UF and probably would be considered behind AU.
The remark about Colorado definitely applied. They were the 3rd team in an 8-team conference. They went to Orange Bowls on occasion just as LSU occasionally made it to the Sugar Bowl. Actually, prior to Nick, tje Buffaloes were much more relevant than LSU having won a NC under McCartney.
So to claim that the stadium an above average to good football program in the South that the casual football fan around the country couldn't even find on a map was some feared Thunderdome of Death is missing the mark. It's not that difficult a concept.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:32 pm to Old Taylor
I agree with some of your takes, however it should be noted that thousands of Tiger fans are currently displaced from their homes and/or involved in rebuilding their homes due to the millennial flooding in August. I personally know quite a few season-ticket holders who have not been able to attend either game. Doesn't fully explain away why some people spend all of that money only to drift away early, although the complaints regarding the alcohol ban do play a part for some.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:41 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Why are you so touchy?
I'm not touching you, I'm just correcting you.
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LSU before Nick was no more relevant a program than the Colorados and Georgia Techs of the world. Arguably less so.
And that is simply wrong.
LSU was #12 nationally in win% when I was in school in the 80s, had a better win% than Colorado (#24), GTech (#28), and all but two other SEC teams. LSU also had winning records vs all but two SEC teams. LSU had also been to more Sugar Bowls than any other team, not just occasional trips.
As a matter of fact, by 1990, the CFB Data Warehouse site puts LSU in the top 10 nationally:
...just before #10 Tennessee
But that you lump GTech in with Colorado shows that you really don't know anything about College football history.
As far as the stadium goes, Tiger Stadium has been a premiere venue since the conference was formed. I'm sorry your arse-suck stadium couldn't ever measure up, but that sounds like a you problem.
I understand that you're just trolling, but in case you hadn't noticed, this is my thing. I'll just keep correcting you 'til you don't find your trolling fun anymore. But the fact remains, Saban didn't make LSU.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:54 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Hey, kid, I was at that game, were you?
No mister. That 1988 game was played 6 years after I graduated from LSU.
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Miami never could hold up their schedule to the SEC schedule.
Hell, they lost at home to Mississippi State in the 80s
An SEC schedule in the 80's and early 90's wasn't anything close to what it is now. It was a 10 team league where Vandy, UK, Ole Miss and MSU were perennial doormats and even the Big 6 teams had a few sub .500 seasons sprinkled in. The MSU team that beat Miami in the Orange Bowl was in 1980 was a pretty good team. They finished the season 9-3. Their 55-31 win over LSU was their largest margin of victory in the history of the series. The game in Miami was played in front of a whopping 18,651 fans. Miami was still an upstart program. The U went on the road the next year to beat another good MSU team (Final ranking #17) in Starkville. Miami beat MSU again in the Orange Bowl again in '82 and again in Starkville in 83. THAT is the year that the Miami program truly arrived.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:15 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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So to claim that the stadium an above average to good football program in the South that the casual football fan around the country couldn't even find on a map was some feared Thunderdome of Death is missing the mark.
Did you not read the link that guy provided? it's players, coaches, cfb experts, and commentators all saying Tiger Stadium is the most intimidating, best venue in college football and it isn't even close. Let us have SOMETHING. Jesus.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:24 pm to I-H8-BAMA
Did you not read my post? The overwhelming majority of those were made AFTER Nick came to Baton Rouge. You could find quotes about every stadium where decent programs play.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:53 pm to Old Taylor
Here is the main problem: the new frequency of night games throughout the league. A lot of posters who are 25 and under probably don't remember but night games were a rarity in the 80 and early 90s. That's when LSU made the reputation of Sat night in Death Valley. LSU was almost the only team that had night home games. LSU made it a point with the SEC scheduling to make.their games at night. It was their tradition. I remember the big deal we made for the 94 Bama vs UGA in TTOWN that was at night. It was an awesome game on it own but the fact it was at night was even better. It was one the few night games I got to see as a student from 89-94 (actually had already graduated but still lived in TTOWN that fall.
TV contracts have now dictated game times and there are a lot more night games on all campuses. Which has lessened the uniqueness of the Sat Night in Death Valley.
It was a big deal back then and a great atmosphere when I went to my one and only Bama vs LSU game at Tiger Stadium. Just happened to get to see Alexander go off for close to 300 yards after he came in the game in the 2md quarter for the injured starter. We partied hard with the LSU folks that weekend.
Those making light of the history are just ignorant of the erra or trolling
TV contracts have now dictated game times and there are a lot more night games on all campuses. Which has lessened the uniqueness of the Sat Night in Death Valley.
It was a big deal back then and a great atmosphere when I went to my one and only Bama vs LSU game at Tiger Stadium. Just happened to get to see Alexander go off for close to 300 yards after he came in the game in the 2md quarter for the injured starter. We partied hard with the LSU folks that weekend.
Those making light of the history are just ignorant of the erra or trolling
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:26 am to spacewrangler
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night games were a rarity in the 80 and early 90s. That's when LSU made the reputation of Sat night in Death Valley
Not exactly...
For the record, that picture was NOT taken during the day, nor was it taken in the 80s.
Night games at Tiger Stadium go back a little further than the 80s. Spring Hill, 1931 was the first game played under the lights at LSU. By the time Cannon made his run in 1959, the reputation of Saturday night in Tiger Stadium had been established.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:30 am to Old Taylor
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2012 Alabama game. That was the game that killed the program if you ask me not the 2011 NCG. We've had very few games in Tiger Stadium since then that have really got the billing of Death Valley on Saturday night. 2014 Ole Miss is the only one in recent memory that actually felt like a Saturday night in Death Valley.
You missed the 2014 Alabama game? Did the 2015 Florida game feel like Saturday night in Death Valley?
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The thing that has truly ruined the atmosphere in Death Valley are the shitty fans.
Ah, OK. I get it. You're one of those. Adios.
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