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re: LSU should have taken its time.

Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:25 pm to
We have an absolute moron for an AD
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:25 pm to
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I can agree with this, just dont understand the love affair that everyone seems to have with Herman. I will say this, I dont know who LSU could have hired that loves Lsu like I feel coach O does.


I would think Herman looked good by his offense and how successful it's been pretty much wherever he has coached at. I assume at the right price and with Aranda here he looked worth the risk.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
2886 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:50 pm to
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I would think Herman looked good by his offense and how successful it's been pretty much wherever he has coached at. 


He hasnt stayed anywhere longer than two years. Hell Nussmeier was at bama two years.

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I assume at the right price and with Aranda here he looked worth the risk.


Right price give him a shot. 6 mil? Hell no.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:51 pm to
I have a few theories. It could be any one of them, or a combination of two or more of them:

1) Continuity. He saw the players supporting O, figure O knew the system, wanted to keep things stable. He forgot that player turnover is inevitable and they will be gone in 1-4 years.

2) Local boy. He wanted someone the boosters and fans would like personally. He forgot that boosters and fans have no actual personal stake in the program's success, and most of them aren't experts in how to build a successful programs. They're Monday morning quarterbacks at best.

3) Recruiting. O's a good recruiter. He forgot that a flatulent chimp with a clipboard can recruit LSU nowadays.

4) Keeping Aranda and possibly some other assistants. He forgot that if Aranda is truly special enough to build a program around, he's gone sooner rather than later. Great coaches are usually very ambitious.

5) He wanted to see Louisiana burn. He forgot that it's a very humid state that makes large conflagrations difficult.

6) He genuinely thinks O is a great HC. He forgot to take his anti-psychotics that morning.

But, hell, in a world where Gene Chizik won a national title, anything can happen.
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:55 pm to
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bullshite. There are probably in excess of 75 current head coaches in DI alone that would have entertained them.


Saban, Meyer, and Harbaugh are not coming. Fisher isnt coming without an insane contract. Some folks that are great coaches like Shaw are not a good fit. Herman was the best possible get but Texas was his dream job and it opened. After that there are folks like Fedora, Fleck, and maybe Gundy that you could probably get but at a high price and all of them have risks. O is the safe hire given his floor probably maintains your roster through recruiting and you can break the bank on the right guy next time.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Interweb Cowboy
NW Bama
Member since Dec 2010
3137 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:57 pm to
Yaw Yaw had a binder.
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:57 pm to
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Recruiting. O's a good recruiter. He forgot that a flatulent chimp with a clipboard can recruit LSU nowadays.


That is compete bullshite. See Florida.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 7:58 pm to
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That's my opinion too. Even if you hire O. To not interview anyone for the job tells me that Alleva was out for control. I don't see how you dont wait until after the bowl game to make your pick.



I really do think O was the right guy BUT one thing for sure you can already tell O is going to be his yes man.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32881 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:00 pm to
Yeah, that was a load of horse manure served by Alleva
Posted by TouchdownAlabama
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
1748 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18661 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:40 pm to
We had coaches interested but apparently our AD only thinks he only needed 3 candidates
Posted by HaloWarriors
Murfreesboro, TN
Member since Feb 2010
3351 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:46 pm to
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window licking retard


Hahaha- I have got to remember this. Mouth-breather was getting old.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:50 pm to
Coach O had a binder.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:38 pm to
This was a bad year to hire a coach unless you were loaded with cash. The market dictates the salary. Right now it looks like Phil Knight set the ceiling and around $10 million per year in Iowa set the floor $4 million a year for life with Ferentz.

We all established last year that LSU didn't have a bunch of money last year. They should get a home "discount" on Ogeron.
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:50 pm to
Well IMO he was a risk because you really aren't sure what you are getting. By backing out of his agreement with LSU (rumor) he wanted the highest bid with a 5 year or more deal and that was too much to gamble on.
Hiring Ed O LSU can reasonably think the recruiting will remain at a high level, keeping Aranda keeps your D at a high level (as long as hr signs) and bringing in a top O coordinator will keep the team very competitive. If things start to come apart you can move quickly to your next head coach and hope better options are out there at that time.
Lot of if,s but still reasonable to think it may work out with Coach O. Best option for the powers that be at this time, in their mind.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:56 pm to
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What was the big hurry?



The plan was to make people forget about how badly he botched the Duke rape case with how badly he botched the LSU football program.

Football > Lacrosse

#Winningbylosing
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19816 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:59 pm to
Let it go
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