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re: LSU fans, why did Russell Shepard not pan out?
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:31 pm to cajunbama
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:31 pm to cajunbama
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He doesn't play for a coach and staff that can develop offensive talent at all. Kid ended his career when he signed with Les and LSU.
Steven Ridley begs you to please go troll somewhere else.
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Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:33 pm to bigDgator
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LSU fans, why did Russell Shepard not pan out?
He was not successful as a wildcat QB because:
1) His arm is not strong enough to play QB in the SEC and
2) He is a one-cut-and-go runner in the SEC (he can't weave through defenses like he did in HS)
He then got moved to WR. He took a full year to catch on (2010), and by the next year we had younger guys coming in who were just naturally better at receiver (e.g. Beckham, Jr.).
In retrospect, Shep was most effective as a slot back and running sweep or jet plays to the sidelines.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:34 pm to bfniii
quote:He didn't.
I am almost positive that he threw a couple of passes late in a blowout game.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:44 pm to bigDgator
If Shepard had gone to Oregon, he would easily have been an all-american.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:46 pm to bigDgator
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I just saw an article that lists him as a senior and wondered why he never got going. Just curious as UF has had plenty of superstars that never reached their potential for one reason or another. I always thought RS would be a dynamic player.
Can't throw or catch. Lot of similarities in talent level and disappointment with him and Debose.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:46 pm to Iconoclastic
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If Shepard had gone to Oregon, he would easily have been an all-american.
And then never start in the NFL.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:46 pm to baytiger
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He didn't.
I am just stunned Les couldn't give him a SINGLE WR pass-option play or Wildcat pass play during his entire career
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:49 pm to Iconoclastic
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If Shepard had gone to Oregon, he would easily have been an all-american
doing what?
he cannot catch
he cannot break tackles
he prolly runs a low 4.5 or high 4.4
he's not elusive
he cannot pass the football
What's he gonna do? run for 150 yards on jet sweeps and end arounds every game?
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:51 pm to Billy Mays
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I am just stunned Les couldn't give him a SINGLE WR pass-option play or Wildcat pass play during his entire career
yea, most LSU fans are too.
The jump pass vs UF with Magee 2 weeks ago could have easily been RS and would have been less obvious something was up because RS lines up in the backfield more than Magee.
We should have been able to use him a little better, but the question is, how much are gonna try to force plays to a guy that's simply a marginal player?
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:51 pm to LsuTool
Did not take steroids and fill out like Percy Harvin
No truthfully, his body just has never matured to a point where he could take the load like a Harvin type back. They were probably both the same coming out of high school. One got bigger and the other didn't. I think it has very little to do with scheme...personally. I think the Debose comparison is a good one. You just never know what the kids are going to do from 18 to 22.
No truthfully, his body just has never matured to a point where he could take the load like a Harvin type back. They were probably both the same coming out of high school. One got bigger and the other didn't. I think it has very little to do with scheme...personally. I think the Debose comparison is a good one. You just never know what the kids are going to do from 18 to 22.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:52 pm to LsuTool
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doing what?
he cannot catch
he cannot break tackles
he prolly runs a low 4.5 or high 4.4
he's not elusive
he cannot pass the football
What's he gonna do? run for 150 yards on jet sweeps and end arounds every game?
They call him Kenjon Barner, no?
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Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:52 pm to LsuTool
Why did RS not get a look at CB or S if it was obvious he wasn't great at WR?
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:52 pm to Billy Mays
quote:it's coming in the next game we play
I am just stunned Les couldn't give him a SINGLE WR pass-option play or Wildcat pass play during his entire career
every week
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:53 pm to LSUdm21
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Should have tried him at DB from day 1.
would have gotten less production out of him at DB. Never woulda seen the field at DBU, maybe ole miss or UK.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:53 pm to LsuTool
Shep may have made a decent spread QB with his legs and field vision. In a weaker defensive league and a different offensive system, he may have made a good college QB.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:55 pm to SBC
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No truthfully, his body just has never matured to a point where he could take the load like a Harvin type back. They were probably both the same coming out of high school. One got bigger and the other didn't.
Shep (6'1", 195) is bigger than Harvin is now (5'11", 185). Harvin is a little shorter and more powerful. Maybe that is what you really mean?
This idea that Shep is smaller than Harvin is exactly wrong, though.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:56 pm to HottyToddy7
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Why did RS not get a look at CB or S if it was obvious he wasn't great at WR?
because LSU is DBU
who was he gonna beat out? Ron Brooks was a 3rd/4th round DB at never started at LSU.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:56 pm to HottyToddy7
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Why did RS not get a look at CB or S
Because the defensive backfield was pretty stocked with guys like Patrick Peterson, Mo Claiborne, Eric Reid, Brandon Taylor, and Tyrann Mathieu.
Shep wouldn't have even sniffed the field at DB.
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:56 pm to HottyToddy7
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Why did RS not get a look at CB or S if it was obvious he wasn't great at WR?
safety? have you seen his frame?
Posted on 10/18/12 at 1:57 pm to TxTiger82
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This idea that Shep is smaller than Harvin is exactly wrong, though.
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