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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:50 am to Hater Bait
Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:50 am to Hater Bait
quote:They've been reading Tiger Rant?
What's up with that?
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:18 am to Libertyabides71
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what brand of whiskey do you recommend?
Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon.... good stuff.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:20 am to Hater Bait
Once again.. people not understanding that lines are not predictions. It's about money.
That being said.. this LSU team is a pretender. We're missing too many cogs on that defense.. they left early. We're 2 DEs and a safety away from being the best team in the nation by a huge margin. The loss of those three players is the difference between being a top-5 team and a top-20 team.
That being said.. this LSU team is a pretender. We're missing too many cogs on that defense.. they left early. We're 2 DEs and a safety away from being the best team in the nation by a huge margin. The loss of those three players is the difference between being a top-5 team and a top-20 team.
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 2:23 am
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:33 am to bmy
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We're 2 DEs and a safety away from being the best team in the nation by a huge margin.
I was right with you till that.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:37 am to whiskeyjohn
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I was right with you till that.
Getting pressure from the DL is what we've lived on for years. It makes average Dbs look like freaks.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:38 am to bmy
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Getting pressure from the DL is what we've lived on for years. It makes average Dbs look like freaks.
Mettenberger isn't smart with the ball/trusts his arm way to much.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:39 am to bmy
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Getting pressure from the DL is what we've lived on for years. It makes average Dbs look like freaks.
But that alone won't make you the best by a wide margin. Even in years past, it hasn't. Just sayin.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:42 am to whiskeyjohn
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But that alone won't make you the best by a wide margin. Even in years past, it hasn't. Just sayin.
In years past we haven't had an offense worth a shite and we were still one of the best teams in the nation. We're 3 players short of an elite defense IMO. Which is why we're barely a top-20 team atm.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:42 am to Libertyabides71
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Mettenberger isn't smart with the ball/trusts his arm way to much.
He definitely fricked us in the Ole Miss game.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:46 am to bmy
I can't get over some of your stats why Mett isn't spreading the ball around more. I mean I've thought Cameron runs a good offense for a long time but he isn't in the NFL anymore. You need to be spreading the catches around even if the offense you are running isn't a spread offense.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:48 am to bmy
Don't disagree that your DL hasn't performed like years past. And that causes issues with your secondary when they don't get pressure on the QB. LSU will have to decide if they will blitz Bama or if they lay back. Either way I think Bama moves the ball very well against the Tigers. And I believe it is because of that that Bama is able to run the ball and effectively neutralize the Tigers. But this game is always a dog fight. Mett will have to have an even better game than last year - if that's even possible - for the Tigers to have any chance. Still, 17 points is too much of a spread. I like Bama by at 10 but not 17.
My issue was your original statement about being the best by a large margin. Better... yes. The best by a wide margin... not hardly.
My issue was your original statement about being the best by a large margin. Better... yes. The best by a wide margin... not hardly.
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 2:51 am
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:50 am to Libertyabides71
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can't get over some of your stats why Mett isn't spreading the ball around more. I mean I've thought Cameron runs a good offense for a long time but he isn't in the NFL anymore. You need to be spreading the catches around even if the offense you are running isn't a spread offense
But when the Tigers are having such great success throwing to only two WRs, why stop? I think if they had more weapons to throw to they would be more dangerous but the two they got are damn good.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:50 am to whiskeyjohn
I completely agree with John. And this time we won't intentionally game plan to "make Mettenberger beat us" like last year.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 2:56 am to Libertyabides71
LSU's defense ranks around 120th in giving up methodical drives according to Football Outsiders statistical methodology. That is drives that last 10 plays or more. That will be an issue with a team like Bama that likes to wear you down.
That lack of depth for the Tigers on defense will be a huge hurdle for them by the late third quarter.
That lack of depth for the Tigers on defense will be a huge hurdle for them by the late third quarter.
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 3:01 am
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:02 am to whiskeyjohn
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But when the Tigers are having such great success throwing to only two WRs, why stop? I think if they had more weapons to throw to they would be more dangerous but the two they got are damn good.
They are both very good wide receivers but spreading your catches around makes you harder to gameplan against. Julio Jones was a damn fine WR but he would have been better in college if he wasn't always the primary receiver or a decoy. I was shocked that their third receiver has barely a catch a ball game. That means if they are ever going three wide then one guy is not making plays or Mettenberger has tunnel vision.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:09 am to Libertyabides71
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They are both very good wide receivers but spreading your catches around makes you harder to gameplan against. Julio Jones was a damn fine WR but he would have been better in college if he wasn't always the primary receiver or a decoy. I was shocked that their third receiver has barely a catch a ball game. That means if they are ever going three wide then one guy is not making plays or Mettenberger has tunnel vision.
Totally agree. That lack of other receivers will hurt LSU against better defenses. I gotta think Belue will hold his own with one of the two WRS. That leaves only the other one to account for. Our injuries in the secondary have me a little worried with that one. But, I would expect Les to try and find a way to get someone else involved when throwing. It will be interesting to see if Les sticks to his ground and pound to try to set up the pass. If CC is predictable in his play calling, the Tigers will be in trouble.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:13 am to whiskeyjohn
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LSU's defense ranks around 120th in giving up methodical drives according to Football Outsiders statistical methodology. That is drives that last 10 plays or more. That will be an issue with a team like Bama that likes to wear you down.
Bama isn't exactly a "wear you down" offense this season, though. 16th in the country in 3rd down conversions, LSU is 2nd. I don't think anyone considers LSU a "wear your down" offense either. Alabama converts a hair over 40% of 3rd down conversions against FBS-winning opponents. If anything, I consider Alabama to be more of a big play offense. Same with LSU. The two teams are remarkably similar this season.. with the exception of our horrible linebackers
(and record) Rushing:
In "3rd down, 1-3 yards to go" Alabama is 80th in the country.
In "3rd down, 4-6 yards to go" Alabama is 99th in the country.
In "3rd down, 7-9 yards to go" Alabama is 74th in the country.
In "3rd down, 10+ yards to go" Alabama is 89th in the country.
LSU, for comparison, is 5th, 63rd, 86th, and 104th.
Alabama is strong on 2nd down at #6 with 6.62 yards per 2nd down (5 TDs).
LSU is 16th at 5.79 yards per 2nd down (10 TDs)
Interesting to note that Alabama averages 5.65 yards per rush in the first half. 6.19 yards per rush in the second half. (LSU 5.08 and 5.29).
LSU also seems to be very, very good at throwing the ball in the 2nd half (10 TD, 2 INT), and not so good in the first half
(9 TD, 6 INT)This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 3:24 am
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:22 am to bmy
Bama ranks #2 in explosive drives... the percentage of each offense's drives that average at least 10 yards per play.
So yes, Bama is explosive on offense. LSU ranks #10.
That's why you haven't seen as much pound them from the Bama offense. They haven't had to. But against an average Tiger defense, they should be able to do what they want. And that's the biggest difference this year. No disrespect for the Tigers defense as they lost so many players.
So yes, Bama is explosive on offense. LSU ranks #10.
That's why you haven't seen as much pound them from the Bama offense. They haven't had to. But against an average Tiger defense, they should be able to do what they want. And that's the biggest difference this year. No disrespect for the Tigers defense as they lost so many players.
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:24 am to bmy
That only covers rushing. What is the percentage of passing for those breakouts?
Posted on 10/31/13 at 3:25 am to whiskeyjohn
Alabama is explosive on offense then shuts it down after a big lead. A good chunk of our stats are off kilter precisely because we go to our version of kneel three times and punt very early and haven't played all four quarters of a ball game but the A&M game.
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