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re: Look, no SEC team has looked on the verge on recreating the Saban dynasty than us

Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:08 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64862 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:08 am to
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Do you see an obvious improvement in how UGA has recruited over the past 2 years compared to the other years?

He's already addressed this. He said, and is correct, that there isn't a huge difference between a top 3 class and a top 8 class. Improvement, yes. Program changing improvement, no. If you consistently recruit top 10 classes, you have the players necessary to win a national title. After that, it's all coaching and a little bit of luck. Kirby has won a conference title. That's a great start but he isn't the first SEC coach to do that within 2 years, and many of them were not able to sustain success. So to say he's on the verge of recreating Saban is extremely premature.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 12:10 am
Posted by Razor Dawg
Decatur
Member since Dec 2017
707 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:28 am to
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College football has been a very watered down product for a few years. But that’s what happens when coaching turnover is what it’s become.



What exactly do you mean in "the past few years"?
Was it watered down in 2007 when you lost to UK and Arkansas and won a NC?2010?2011 (of course not becasue that was the last time LSU was relevant,right?) Please name the years which you are referring to.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33020 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:45 am to
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Your front 7 was fresh the entire game because Auburn couldn't move the chains due to their best player being hurt. Eventually, that starts to wear on a team, and it still took UGA until the 4th quarter to blow the game open. I just don't see why you're so dismissive of the impact of Auburn having Johnson playing hurt and coming in and out of the game all night.


This sounds good in theory, but the the shift of our front 7 beating the AU OL happened in the 1st Q. After the first 2 carries totaled 12 yards, he got 4 of the next 5 touches and this is how they went:

1 yard loss
1 yard run
6 yard loss reception
7 yard reception

Then a 2 yard run.
Then a 4 yard loss.
3 yard run

This sudden lack of production had nothing to do with him being hurt. It had nothing to do with AU being worn down. It had everything to do with our guys beating the blockers and wrapping up.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 3:46 am
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:05 am to
Ya'll have had 1 good season... scale back the dynasty talk
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33020 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:32 am to
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He's already addressed this. He said, and is correct, that there isn't a huge difference between a top 3 class and a top 8 class. Improvement, yes. Program changing improvement, no.


He has avoided a simple yes or no answer numerous times.

The current difference between UGA's #1 class and AU's #10 class is about the same as the difference between AU's #10 class and Ole Miss's #35 class.

Looks like a huge difference.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33020 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:40 am to
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Last year wasn’t great either if that’s the angle you’re going for.


When was it great? Not watered down?
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:57 am to
The only programs who have the potential to do what bama has done are uga and Florida. So yes, nobody has been on the verge.

However, it will require breaks to accomplish what bama has accomplished as well. You already got one this season. ;)
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2477 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:53 am to
Congrats to UGA for their SECCG win....but yeah, despite the game only being a few weeks ago, many of their fans are already spinning alot of revisionist history based solely on the final score. If UGA truly believes a similar performance will be good enough to beat a healthy Oklahoma, then they're gonna be in for a rude awakening.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8163 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:57 am to
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Gene Chizik.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33020 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:59 am to
A repeat of 28-7 would beat Ou. No revision needed.
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2477 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:35 am to
A repeat of 28-7 against OU, with the same type of performance, only happens if Jeff Gilooly is on the payroll.
Posted by warcry
Mobile
Member since Aug 2011
4770 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:38 am to
boomer fricking sooner.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40051 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:41 am to
There’s a huge difference in the #3 class and the #8 class that Richt always had. Every team that has won the national championship during the BSC era had a top 5 recruiting class that put them out very the top. That’s the one thing that eluded him during that time. I believe Clemsonmay have broken this streak though.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22455 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:44 am to
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There’s a huge difference in the #3 class and the #8 class that Richt always had. Every team that has won the national championship during the BSC era had a top 5 recruiting class that put them out very the top. That’s the one thing that eluded him during that time. I believe Clemsonmay have broken this streak though.


Nah, rant says 5 stars don’t matter. No difference in top class and 10th class..what’s a few 5 stars?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38380 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:47 am to
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tween the hedges


quote:

dynasty


Posted by Razor Dawg
Decatur
Member since Dec 2017
707 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:48 am to


UGA truly believes a similar performance will be good enough to beat a healthy Oklahoma, 

Do you want me to post stats from the SECCG?Of course
our performance was good enough to beat OU or just about anybody else that day.WTF is your point?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:49 am to
Signing day is still a ways off
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40051 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:52 am to
Uh... the early signing period ends today and UGA has all but locked up their class.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22455 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:52 am to
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Signing day is still a ways off


Lot of signing this past Tuesday..
Posted by vandelay industries
CSRA
Member since May 2012
2477 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:06 am to
All I know is, if Auburn pulled it out in the SECCG (and let's be honest, it was still not an impossibility going into the 4th quarter), and Auburn had to play Oklahoma with the same personnel issues, I'd expect OU to roll. Despite AU's woes, they were probably still good enough to beat most teams, but they were effectively a Top 25 team in Atlanta that day, as opposed to the #2 seed heading in. For sure, UGA could beat most teams with a performance similar to the SECCG, but OU isn't most teams...UGA will have to step it up alot more than they did in Atlanta.
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