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Let's talk about Michigan's "vaunted defense"

Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:38 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:38 pm
I'm a little bored so I looked at the total offense and scoring offense of Michgan's and Bama's opponents this season.

Average ranking of Michigan's opponents total offense:
95

Average ranking of Michigan's opponents scoring offense: 86

Average ranking of Alabama's opponents total offense: 48

Average ranking of Alabama's opponents scoring offense: 45


Michigan had 7 opponents that were not in the top 100 in scoring offense and 8 that were not in the top 100 in total offense

The only thing that throws a bit of a wrinkle is that Bama played an FCS opponent (Chattanooga) where Michigan did not.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29440 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:42 pm to
Put it this way, I’d feel confident playing Michigan as an lsu fan , and y’all beat us pretty good.

I don’t believe they have enough offense to win against anyone worth a shite.

Osu wasn’t good this year and that was their big win.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29440 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:43 pm to
My point is that they will stop y’all a handful of times but they won’t be able to score so it won’t matter
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
1381 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:44 pm to
I was hoping Texas was going to get matched up with Michigan in the first round.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 2:44 pm
Posted by off_season
Florida
Member since Jul 2014
1038 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:45 pm to
Bama absolutely pulled the easiest opponent for the first game


Posted by Old Katy Tiger
Texas
Member since Nov 2021
76 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:46 pm to
I know Michigan has no shot, so I am hoping he punches Saban in the face at the handshake.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29440 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:52 pm to
If y’all can handle Blake Corum stretch left , Blake corum stretch right, Blake corum up the middle, play action occasionaly. You will be fine.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29440 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:53 pm to
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The only thing that throws a bit of a wrinkle is that Bama played an FCS opponent (Chattanooga) where Michigan did not.


And they will let you know about it every time you speak to one of their fans
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4731 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Bama absolutely pulled the easiest opponent for the first game

Which is fine for once. Most of the time, it is not that way.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119129 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:20 pm to
Bama gonna thump Michigan
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
1865 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:20 pm to
There could be a little chicken or egg scenario going on... Were the offenses statistically bad because of better defense in the B1G, or were the offense really just that bad? I lean pretty heavily more toward the latter, though there were some stout defenses in the B1G this year.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Were the offenses statistically bad because of better defense in the B1G, or were the offense really just that bad?


In the B1G West there's no question. The offenses were simply that bad. In the B1G East it's a little tougher to judge, but I still think the offenses probably just weren't that good.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24983 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

There could be a little chicken or egg scenario going on... Were the offenses statistically bad because of better defense in the B1G, or were the offense really just that bad? I lean pretty heavily more toward the latter, though there were some stout defenses in the B1G this year.




IA was ranked 5th in total defense and had 26 points scored on them by Michigan who was ranked 68 in total offense.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:26 pm to
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IA was ranked 5th in total defense and had 26 points scored on them by Michigan who was ranked 68 in total offense.


Almost entirely because their offense and special teams were bad. They gave up like 200 total yards. Michigan scored all but 3 of their points on drives less than 40 yards.

Iowa just doesn't get any first downs and then gives the other team the ball inside their territory. Add in a fumble inside the 10 and a punt return and your D can be nearly perfect and still give up 20+.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2581 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:30 pm to
Yea it seems like our defense is built to handle these type offenses. It’s the Gus’s and the Freeze’s of the world that give us fits historically….along with mobile QBs.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:43 pm to
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The only thing that throws a bit of a wrinkle is that Bama played an FCS opponent (Chattanooga) where Michigan did not.
the other thing is our experiment game against south Florida, because they were one of the worst offenses and defenses we played and the scoring wasn't there due to trying out the backups
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Bird_Hunter
Chicago
Member since Nov 2023
655 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 3:49 pm to
Where did you find your stats? Just curious for my own amusement when looking at teams.
Posted by Hmanhunt
Member since Sep 2015
641 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:35 pm to
I’m utterly impressed and jealous of the improvement Bama’s Oline has made in season. I think they dominate come kickoff.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
1829 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:39 pm to
They’ve yet to play a top level offense. Ohio State was pretty dysfunctional at QB and offensive line. That bastard Milroe could give them fits
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24983 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:02 pm to
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Where did you find your stats? Just curious for my own amusement when looking at teams.


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