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Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:45 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
It's not easy to win on the road in-conference. In any conference.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:45 pm to the808bass
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In other news, who has more issues on the road, Mike Anderson or Junior?
Junior has more DWIs than Senior has road wins in the SEC.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:45 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Florida- Lock, they are a final 4 team
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:46 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:this
To put it in perspective, this is the best guardplay and depth that A&M has ever had.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:46 pm to the808bass
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I understand the history
I don't think you do. It's a curse that Melvin brought on himself through some utterly stupid comments and certain recruiting tactics.
2 conference losses to end the 2002-2003 season
0-17 in conference in 2003-2004.
After that, he was famously quoted as saying, "No one can win here".
After Gillispie went 21-10, crushing Missouri and assistant coach Watkins in the process, Watkins did two things: He claimed that, if he just had more time, he could have easily gotten the same results as Gillispie, then tried to recruit Donald Sloan away from A&M by telling him we'd never reach the tournament.
From 2006-2008, we were the better team, so there was no talk of a curse.
It was the 2009 game that really made us believe that Watkins was cursed. We beat Missouri (the Elite Eight version) by double digits in our conference regular season finale, being up by as many as 30 (Anderson's first season).
In 2010, we ended the 33-game home winning streak to the absolute shock of everyone but those familiar with the curse.
In 2011, Missouri inexplicably shot less than 42% from the line against A&M and lost in overtime. In the Big 12 tournament, we blew them out.
In 2012, Melvin Watkins was no longer with Missouri...they swept us easily.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:46 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
he definitely chalked up a lot of sure wins. On paper a lot of those teams arent great but a&m isnt good enough not to drop games on the road to inferior opponents.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:46 pm to semotruman
Maybe that's what Kimmie's tweet was really about.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:48 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
quote:yea cause playing in places like the allen fieldhouse sure were walks in the park
A&M fans are gonna find out how hard it is to win on the road in the SEC.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:49 pm to bbap
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wait so arkansas hasnt lost 27 straight to a&m, just some random coach
Not some random coach. Melvin Watkins was the A&M head coach from 1999-2004.
His final season at A&M he was (and still is) the only coach in the history of the Big 12 to go winless in conference and resigned in disgrace.
After joining Quin Snyder's staff, Watkins lost every game to A&M that Missouri played. After Snyder was fired and Anderson retained Watkins, they lost every game to A&M under Anderson. The year after Anderson and Watkins left for Arkansas, Missouri swept A&M.
We have tormented him for almost 10 years.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:49 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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We can't lose to Arkansas. It's not possible as long as Melvin Watkins is on that coaching staff. Surely, as a Missouri fan you understand this better than most.
The aura of BWA > The curse of Melvin
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:49 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
The Melvin Watkin's curse is cute. It's not real. The fact you're treating it so seriously makes me a lil concerned.
If curses worked, Lawrence would've burned in a fire long ago.
If curses worked, Lawrence would've burned in a fire long ago.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:51 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Not some random coach. Melvin Watkins was the A&M head coach from 1999-2004.
His final season at A&M he was (and still is) the only coach in the history of the Big 12 to go winless in conference and resigned in disgrace.
After joining Quin Snyder's staff, Watkins lost every game to A&M that Missouri played. After Snyder was fired and Anderson retained Watkins, they lost every game to A&M under Anderson. The year after Anderson and Watkins left for Arkansas, Missouri swept A&M.
yeah i gathered all of that from your prior post. kinda funny i guess but really not that big of a deal.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:51 pm to the808bass
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It's not real.
When we ended your long home win streak in 2010, I never doubted we would win...even as we went down 11 midway through the 2nd half, I just KNEW that Melvin would not beat us.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:52 pm to bbap
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yeah i gathered all of that from your prior post. kinda funny i guess but really not that big of a deal.
It's the only common thread connecting all of Missouri's losses to A&M since Watkins departed. 3 straight losses is a coincidence. 8 is not.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:54 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
i honestly cant remember a&m on tv ever in my childhood (and im not that young anymore). i remember yall going winless, but certainly dont remember any games. never remember yall going to the tournament when i was young so when yall went 0-17 i just assumed it was par for the course really.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:56 pm to bbap
Post-Watkins:
2004-2005: 21 wins (NIT)
2005-2006: 22 wins (NCAA 2nd round)
2006-2007: 27 wins (Sweet 16)
2007-2008: 23 wins (NCAA 2nd round)
2008-2009: 24 wins (NCAA 2nd round)
2009-2010: 25 wins (NCAA 2nd round)
2010-2011: 23 wins (NCAA Tournament)
2011-2012: 14 wins (jack shite)
2012-2013: 7 wins so far
Prior to Gillispie, A&M had gone to the tournament 6 times in its history. Furthest they ever went was 1980 when they took National Champion Louisville to the wire after beating North Carolina by 17 in overtime.
They were actually a respectable program under Shelby Metcalf and the program pretty much gave itself the death penalty between 1990-2004.
2004-2005: 21 wins (NIT)
2005-2006: 22 wins (NCAA 2nd round)
2006-2007: 27 wins (Sweet 16)
2007-2008: 23 wins (NCAA 2nd round)
2008-2009: 24 wins (NCAA 2nd round)
2009-2010: 25 wins (NCAA 2nd round)
2010-2011: 23 wins (NCAA Tournament)
2011-2012: 14 wins (jack shite)
2012-2013: 7 wins so far
Prior to Gillispie, A&M had gone to the tournament 6 times in its history. Furthest they ever went was 1980 when they took National Champion Louisville to the wire after beating North Carolina by 17 in overtime.
They were actually a respectable program under Shelby Metcalf and the program pretty much gave itself the death penalty between 1990-2004.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:59 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I hope Rick Ray = our Melvin Watkins
Because that means things get better once he's gone.
Because that means things get better once he's gone.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 1:59 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Prior to Gillispie, A&M had gone to the tournament 6 times in its history.
guess why i dont really remember then.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:00 pm to bbap
I don't see us making the tourney if Maymon does not get back.
With Maymon I see us around 12-6 in league play. Without him we are about .500.
With Maymon I see us around 12-6 in league play. Without him we are about .500.
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