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Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:49 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Until Mullen does it again, State's past and those four and five loss seasons under Mullen are the bulk of the proof for outsiders.
So, the time period before he got all his own players to campus -- and actually started getting "his" QBs to come to MSU huh?
Tell me -- how many years did it take Beamer to get it going at Va Tech? How many did it take Spurrier at SC? How many did it take Snyder at KState? If we're playing apples to apples -- Mullen has been better than any of those guys in similar jobs at the same snapshot of their careers.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:51 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Im just laughing at you
In other words, a butt - hurt Ag that has to ride Bama.
I know LSU owns the space in your head
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:51 pm to engie
Like I said, more proof to suggest he won't than to prove he will. Only time will prove otherwise.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:51 pm to pivey14
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But who's to say that this season won't attract future "Dak Prescotts".
Because there arent many Dak Prescott's in existence, let alone in the narrow range of recruiting venues accessed by MSU and not poached by Bama, LSU, etc.
Its assuming a lot to believe the stars will regularly align like this.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Because experienced teams dont win JUST because they are experienced, they require a primary catalyst.
Of course they do.
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Dak Prescott is a once in a generation type player at MSU.
He's the 4th such QB under Dan Mullen. If not the 5th. It's hilariously ridiculous to assume he will be the last simply because he's the first "at MSU" based on our coach's track record.
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Let's not pretend that MSU would be a contender with the same roster led by Tyler Russell.
Let's not pretend that we have any more Tyler Russell-style of players coming through the pipeline.
EVERY QB on our roster currently are further along as passers at this point in their careers than Dak Prescott was at the same time, and all are dual threats -- with both freshmen having elite rushing potential.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:56 pm to engie
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EVERY QB on our roster currently are further along as passers at this point in their careers than Dak Prescott was at the same time, and all are dual threats -- with both freshmen having elite rushing potential.
Oh, lord.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
Translation: you are turned on by short men. Shocked...and suprised.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:59 pm to engie
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13. Really significantly less if you look at our actual starters and snap counts instead of looking at a worthless depth chart that has always been known to tip it's hat to seniors.
Seniors account for over 60% of MSU's total player snaps this year. That is INSANE. Only one other SEC team has over 50%. Not only does MSU start an unusually high number of seniors, but they play a lot.
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There will be just as many upperclassmen next year. That's what happens when you are a 5 year redshirting program that plays 60+ guys every week that doesn't see any significant or bad attrition across the board.
MSU has played 60+ players in a game twice this year, both OOC scrub matchups.
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Same will be true next year.
Irrelevant to this discussion, although its technically incorrect. You wont have quite as many upperclassmen starters next year, and three of your juniors are likely to declare.
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Correct it for me.
NFL draft prospects and potential. MSU currently has less than half the number of projected draft picks amongst their sophomores, juniors and seniors as Bama. They rank above only Arkansas and A&M right now in that category in the west.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
So what do you base this belief on? You haven't said shite so far. Pretty much back peddled since your OP and called people mad.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:00 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Because there arent many Dak Prescott's in existence, let alone in the narrow range of recruiting venues accessed by MSU and not poached by Bama, LSU, etc.
We don't recruit the same style of QBs as Bama and LSU, nor run a similar style of offense. But here you are again basing the "eliteness" of QBs on offer sheets and star ratings -- neither of which were possessed by Dak Prescott.
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Its assuming a lot to believe the stars will regularly align like this.
What "stars" alignment do you speak of? All I see is an elite, deep MSU team that redshirted badasses at every position on the field.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
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MSU currently has less than half the number of projected draft picks amongst their sophomores, juniors and seniors as Bama. They rank above only Arkansas and A&M right now in that category in the west.
Link? Would like to see a chart like that.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:02 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Oh, lord.
You thought Dak was a pretty good passer in his first and second year on campus?
That's right -- you never actually saw him throw a pass then because he was redshirting and then he wasn't very good at it.
Dak Prescott didn't arrive at MSU an elite QB. We made him that and that's how he'll leave.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:02 pm to engie
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EVERY QB on our roster currently are further along as passers at this point in their careers than Dak Prescott was at the same time, and all are dual threats -- with both freshmen having elite rushing potential.
Oh, ok then
As with everything, we never realize what we have until its gone. Many A&M fans believed we could replace Manziel, and he was just the first of many like him. The reality is that we will probably never have another Manziel, amd MSU may never have another Prescott.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:02 pm to Roger Klarvin
Man, when Saban stomped that arse 59-0, you Aggies turned into Bama's Bitch. You might have been use to playing the Bitch role with the other conference but in the SEC we don't get on our knees for no one. 
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:03 pm to Roger Klarvin
So we want bama in the playoff, because they're bama 
GFY. I can see that y'all have moved from being UT's bitch to bama's bitch. There is no team in the country that has been more impressive than State this year. Grinders will win Saturday. This isn't one of the dominant bama teams of the past. This bama team can and will be beaten again this year, but I don't care what happens in the playoff. There will be no more "SEC, SEC, SEC" for me. Idgaf what happens if it doesn't involve purple and gold. 
GFY. I can see that y'all have moved from being UT's bitch to bama's bitch. There is no team in the country that has been more impressive than State this year. Grinders will win Saturday. This isn't one of the dominant bama teams of the past. This bama team can and will be beaten again this year, but I don't care what happens in the playoff. There will be no more "SEC, SEC, SEC" for me. Idgaf what happens if it doesn't involve purple and gold. Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Seniors account for over 60% of MSU's total player snaps this year.
No.
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ot only does MSU start an unusually high number of seniors, but they play a lot.
K
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MSU has played 60+ players in a game twice this year, both OOC scrub matchups.
Wrong
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Irrelevant to this discussion, although its technically incorrect. You wont have quite as many upperclassmen starters next year, and three of your juniors are likely to declare
Only one JR is going to declare.
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NFL draft prospects and potential. MSU currently has less than half the number of projected draft picks amongst their sophomores, juniors and seniors as Bama. They rank above only Arkansas and A&M right now in that category in the west.
So, we are back to you saying that our coaches are total badasses?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:04 pm to NIH
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So what do you base this belief on?
Its been explained multiple times in this thread, including the OP.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:05 pm to pivey14
The best part is how he contradicts himself, Arkansas has the least NFL talent of any West school yet came within a point of Bama.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:06 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The point is that MSU is less likely to win a championship than Bama is if they make the playoff, regardless of who wins on Saturday.
This is so stupid. Bama's essence and history and prestige will win playoff games for them? MSU is much better, thus they have a better chance to win.
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