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re: Let's be honest, it's best for the SEC if Bama goes to the playoff over MSU
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I agree your QB is very talented and you have a shite ton of seniors.
You mean -- we've got an average number of seniors? Feel free to check out our roster and confirm.
By your definition of "talent" which is clearly based on nothing but star rankings -- isn't that QB of ours just another average player that wasn't good enough for LSU, aTm, or anyone else in the SEC? Thus simply been developed by an overly badass coach?
You are an aTm fan. I don't blame you for basing "talent" on star ratings -- because it's your justification for believing that imminent greatness is right around the corner. You keep on believing -- and pls keep taking Texas' players and shockingly getting Texas results out of them.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 7:29 pm
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:28 pm to engie
Development and experience count just as much. There are plenty of examples in the SEC of immense talent being wasted. Just as many of underrated players developing their talents further.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:28 pm to Roger Klarvin
A&m is not sec so you have no say in what's best.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:29 pm to Pettifogger
Pettifogger, MSU was playing on a slightly higher level than Bama from Wk-1 to Wk-6, but over the last three weeks, that has leveled off. MSU relying too much on Dak, the Pass D still average due to MSU DB play. While Bama has slightly ramped up. MSU a slightly better OL and DL, similar LB level, but life-and-death nature of MSU at Ky and vs Ark..
MSU an underdog in TTown..gonna need to play their best game of the year..I hope the 'LSU Hangover' has some effect..Dogs need to help Dak this week.
MSU an underdog in TTown..gonna need to play their best game of the year..I hope the 'LSU Hangover' has some effect..Dogs need to help Dak this week.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:31 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Development and experience count just as much.
Both symptoms of both great coaching and recruiting -- are they not? Is determining hard working players with the ability to grow and the determination to stick around 5 years not a huge part of recruiting? Is causing them to reach their potential not a huge part of coaching?
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:34 pm to engie
A seasoned core group of players can win in the current atmosphere, with record numbers of players leaving early. If you have developed, experienced players they can compete with rosters filled with guys having NFL measurables.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:34 pm to engie
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You mean -- we've got an average number of seniors? Feel free to check out our roster and confirm.
14 of your 22 starters are seniors, and 19 of the 22 are upperclassmen. Both numbers lead the SEC and are in the top 10 nationally.
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By your definition of "talent" which is clearly based on nothing but star rankings
Incorrect
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You are an aTm fan. I don't blame you for basing "talent" on star ratings -- because it's your justification for believing that imminent greatness is right around the corner. You keep on believing -- and pls keep taking Texas' players and shockingly getting Texas results out of them.
Another irrelevant tirade directed at A&M.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:35 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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A seasoned core group of players can win in the current atmosphere, with record numbers of players leaving early. If you have developed, experienced players they can compete with rosters filled with guys having NFL measurables.
This is correct
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:36 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Pettifogger, MSU was playing on a slightly higher level than Bama from Wk-1 to Wk-6, but over the last three weeks, that has leveled off.
We've been resting and healing for 3 weeks getting ready for Bama. Remember when we gave up 34 and 500 yards to UAB and were going to get torched by LSU? Yeah, I do too.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:36 pm to Roger Klarvin
Frank Beamer has done this at Virginia Tech for three decades.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:38 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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A seasoned core group of players can win in the current atmosphere, with record numbers of players leaving early. If you have developed, experienced players they can compete with rosters filled with guys having NFL measurables.
Agreed.
Why is it assumed that this is a one-time thing for MSU then? Simply because, by Klarvin's standards, the worst MSU recruiting class under Mullen is graduating?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:39 pm to Roger Klarvin
You aren't actually having a discussion. You're basing this all off a game where your players clearly quit. In games vs Ole Miss, Arkansas, Tennessee, and LSU, Bama did not look like an elite team with a huge gap of talent between them and their opponent. The only true outlier is your game vs Bama.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:41 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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hey what's the deal with the golden retriever gay & m keeps around the sidelines?
All the things there are to make fun of A&M over, we don't need to bring the dog into it. Who doesn't like Lassie.
But they do seem to have a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome. Must be left over from Texas.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
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14 of your 22 starters are seniors
13. Really significantly less if you look at our actual starters and snap counts instead of looking at a worthless depth chart that has always been known to tip it's hat to seniors.
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19 of the 22 are upperclassmen.
There will be just as many upperclassmen next year. That's what happens when you are a 5 year redshirting program that plays 60+ guys every week that doesn't see any significant or bad attrition across the board.
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Both numbers lead the SEC and are in the top 10 nationally.
Same will be true next year.
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Incorrect
Correct it for me.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:44 pm to engie
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Why is it assumed that this is a one-time thing for MSU then? Simply because, by Klarvin's standards, the worst MSU recruiting class under Mullen is graduating?
Until Mullen does it again, State's past and those four and five loss seasons under Mullen are the bulk of the proof for outsiders.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
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LSU fans are so fricking adorable right now
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Roger Klarvin
Which team are you laughing about on that list?
We know LSU is in your head 24/7....so besides them.
Ole Miss has already beat Bama
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:47 pm to engie
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Why is it assumed that this is a one-time thing for MSU then?
Because experienced teams dont win JUST because they are experienced, they require a primary catalyst. Dak Prescott is a once in a generation type player at MSU. Let's not pretend that MSU would be a contender with the same roster led by Tyler Russell.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:47 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Until Mullen does it again, State's past and those four and five loss seasons under Mullen are the bulk of the proof for outsiders.
I'm rooting for MSU, and hope they win out, but I have to agree with this.
But hey, a one hit wonder, is better than a no hit wonder. Right Aggies?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:48 pm to NIH
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You aren't actually having a discussion. You're basing this all off a game where your players clearly quit. In games vs Ole Miss, Arkansas, Tennessee, and LSU, Bama did not look like an elite team with a huge gap of talent between them and their opponent. The only true outlier is your game vs Bama.
All of this is false.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Because experienced teams dont win JUST because they are experienced, they require a primary catalyst. Dak Prescott is a once in a generation type player at MSU. Let's not pretend that MSU would be a contender with the same roster led by Tyler Russell.
Well no shite. But who's to say that this season won't attract future "Dak Prescotts". Quit acting like you know the damn future.
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