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re: Let the "PROCESS" begin

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Posted by 167back
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:18 am to
That's not necassiarly true. Some players have been known to be drafted after their soph season, two years out of high school.
Posted by StarkvilleTigerFan
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 8:03 am to
" Hey Nick-I have a PROCESS too and you've seen it up close and personal"

Kevin Sumlin
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 8:29 am to
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The problem is doctors falsifying records to record career-ending injuries to clear the 85 cap


LOL...wut???
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 8:37 am to
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That's not necassiarly true. Some players have been known to be drafted after their soph season, two years out of high school.


Only if they're JUCO. If they went to a 4 year school, they're not eligible as sophs.

Straight from the horse's mouth
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 8:47 am to
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Only if they're JUCO. If they went to a 4 year school, they're not eligible as sophs. Straight from the horse's mouth



Yes, but if they are cut freshman year, they can juco and draft after soph year. easier to get a scholly at juco as well. pretty much only have to wait one year at most ever. MLB grants exemptions quite a bit though as well. there are also no transfer restrictions that I am aware of as well

Like I said comparing baseball and football is not the same. it is also much easier to get to the next level from college/HS in baseball than football with the size of the minor league system in baseball
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 8:50 am
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 8:50 am to
I see that this has been completely ignored by all the whiners.


Retort to WSJ article
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:26 pm to
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Govt Tide
Let the "PROCESS" begin
I see that this has been completely ignored by all the whiners.


Retort to WSJ article


Would love for one of the whiners, instead of talking out of their asses, to do a little research and find one Bama player who was offered a medical redshirt, got a second opinion which cleared him to play from another doctor, and then took his remaining eligibility to another school. If Alabama really is abusing the medical redshirt rules as people here have alleged, there would be players like this scattered all over college football.
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 12:27 pm
Posted by 167back
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:41 pm to
You MISSED the part about the AGE (21) also being a factor. In the past LSU have had some players drafted AFTER their SOPH season because they were 21.
Posted by 167back
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:46 pm to
Still after six pages on this subject not a single bama poster has even attempted to answer the question.

Any idea about how many have to leave one way or the other to get saban a full 25 in this class and not go over the 85 limit?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:47 pm to
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Any idea about how many have to leave one way or the other to get saban a full 25 in this class and not go over the 85 limit


:insertonlysabanknowshowmanyquote:
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:05 pm to
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Well according to the NCAA, they are "Student" Athletes, and they stress the student aspect first. So if they abide by all the rules, show up to practice, exceed on the academic aspect, they should be able to have some sort of guarantee that a scholly will be honored in some form
Your new coach planning on handing out 4 yr guaranteed scholly's like Chizik did last year?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:14 pm to
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Your new coach planning on handing out 4 yr guaranteed scholly's like Chizik did last year?


I think it was JJ who stated it at first. either way, we shall see
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:20 pm to
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1. Saying "we're not the worst" is a crappy argument.

2. In the SEC, you're the worst.







The worst at giving a kid that will never see the field the option to accept a free education, even a master's degree on Bama's dime?


I'm sorry, I just can not see the issue here. If a kid can't handle the pressure and the high expectations that comes with playing football at one of the premiere programs in the country then he just can't handle it, period. He doesn't have to be thrown to the wolves, Bama will still give him a free education if he chooses to stay.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:24 pm to
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Would love for one of the whiners, instead of talking out of their asses, to do a little research and find one Bama player who was offered a medical redshirt, got a second opinion which cleared him to play from another doctor, and then took his remaining eligibility to another school. If Alabama really is abusing the medical redshirt rules as people here have alleged, there would be players like this scattered all over college football.
There was a player, I think it may have been Zeke Knight (I may have the name wrong) that did not wish to accept the diagnosis of UA medical staff, he thought he was good to play ball. Didn't he try to play at Stillman? I think he had a heart condition - I can't remember what happened to him. I liked him though, he may not have been here under Saban. IDK
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 1:26 pm
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:25 pm to
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Your new coach planning on handing out 4 yr guaranteed scholly's like Chizik did last year?


UF "did" the same thing last year.
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:31 pm to
Yes, it was.zeke. he would've started/had started. Hey did try elsewhere and didn't get cleared.
Posted by sarc
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:35 pm to
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Zeke Knight


That was definitely a unique situation. He would've been one of Bama's best returning players on defense with a shot at being a high draft pick but had stroke in practice and had to be hospitalized. Extensive tests showed he had a heart condition. Bama even sent him to the Mayo Clinic for a 2nd opinion but all the medical experts advised against him playing. He was determined to play football though and eventually found one program (Stillman) that was willing to let him play. He hoped to get picked up by an NFL team but I don't think any of the teams were willing to risk it because of his condition.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:47 pm to
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Zeke Knight
quote:

That was definitely a unique situation. He would've been one of Bama's best returning players on defense with a shot at being a high draft pick but had stroke in practice and had to be hospitalized. Extensive tests showed he had a heart condition. Bama even sent him to the Mayo Clinic for a 2nd opinion but all the medical experts advised against him playing. He was determined to play football though and eventually found one program (Stillman) that was willing to let him play. He hoped to get picked up by an NFL team but I don't think any of the teams were willing to risk it because of his condition.





I really like Zeke and hated to see his health hamper him from being successful.

I was just trying to point out that Bama's medical staff does not falsify medical records and every player faced with a medical scholly has a choice, they are in no way forced to accept them. They can always go elsewhere if they think they are physically able to play ball, i.e. Zeke
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:48 pm to
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I thought you meant Gus Malzahn's process to take back the state.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4698 posts
Posted on 1/12/13 at 12:12 am to
Being no bama fan would answer my question I tried to figure it out myself. The number I came up with is

ELEVEN.

Does that seem about right? That's alot of players to have leave the program in one offseason. Anyone left yet?
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