re: Let the "PROCESS" begin

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I'm not aware of a single former Bama player who has claimed that he was cut. I think people like to ascribe the term "cut" for just about anytime a player leaves Bama's program whereas the reality is that it's just not happening like that.

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WSJ: "Three Alabama players who've taken these exemptions say they believe the team uses the practice as a way to clear spots for better players by cutting players it no longer wants."

In every program you have players let go for behavior.
Players let go for academic reasons.
Players too hurt to continue playing.
Players who don't want to play anymore.

Problems come when you (a) offer a player a scholly, then tell him to wait till January or wait a year; (b) tell a player he can stay on scholly if he'll accept a medical redshirt; (c)tell a player he should transfer because he'll never contribute.

Over whatever period it was, Bama granted 12 of the total 25 medical schollies given by SEC schools. Stinks.

I read the whole thread. I see Bama people explaining stuff away.

I'm on Auburn boards too. I was one of the first to say, "Hey, Fairley's doing some dirty stuff." I was one of the first to say, "Something's wrong with an element on this team." I'll admit to O&B tinting, but I can concede problems with Auburn when they're there.

That quality's fairly rare. In my case it's probably because I've seen college sports from the level of a player and an involved faculty member. Some it is awesome, and some of it is sort of like working at McDonald's: you'd hate to eat what you've seen prepared.

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I read the whole thread.

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It would have helped to have read the whole article.

The biggest thing rustling most Bama fan's jimmies (mine included) is the assertion that Bama is granting a comparatively excessive number of medicals.

The story makes that implication but provides not one single shred of proof. The 'at least 25' statement is also evidence of an agenda. He couldn't get complete totals from the other programs, so he went with with that lame statement. He doesn't even qualify the number by stating where he got it. It could be six or seven schools, it could be a single school, or it could be pulled out of his arse.

I suspect most if not all of the programs told him to pound sand when he requested their numbers - if he even asked at all. He decided to write a hit piece and researched it about as well as a any random post on the SECr. I guess he should get props for being able to to that and keep getting paid. Nice work if you can get it.

A couple of medicals a year doesn't sound like a lot to me, but unlike the author of this story I'm more than willing to say that I don't know.

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You're probably referring to Charlie Kirschman in the WSJ article. He got his bachelor's degree while on football scholarship and got a master's degree on medical scholarship. He also stated that it was his choice to take the medical scholarship

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he also received a national title ring the year after he left

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beachreb61
Let the "PROCESS" begin
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so you state a couple of times that bama has more medicals in the sec and then you give us an article with no numbers for sec schools.

I asked for a list of SEC schools and their numbers over the last few years, the one you are using to make your claim. That way I can form a more informed opinion.



Sorry. Maybe google is your friend. But in the timeframe of this article, 12 of 25 in the SEC were yours.

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So answer me this: Why do the authors say "unhappy castoffs" in the plural, when there was only one...singular...unhappy one mentioned?

Really surprised to see intelligent people still trying to use a guy who got a bachelors and a masters degree for free as the poster child for medical redshirts. As soon as you cite Charlie Kirschman, you've lost the argument.

I laugh when everyone gets the Aunt Pittypat vapors over players having their scholarships taken/not renewed. Have any of you ever looked at what happens in college baseball. This goes on at every single collegiate baseball program down to the small school level literally EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Hell, the Vols baseball coach basically told the entire team after last season that only a handful would be back.

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In the defense of baseball vs football in this regards, there isnt really as much of a restriction on a players ability to enter the pros or have other avenues to develop their athletic career as there is with football. Baseball schollys are different as well, are they not?

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They definitely are different. Hell in baseball you dont even get a full scholarship. I could be wrong but I want to say theres approx 12 scholarships to split between the entire team

It's not LES getting all these #1 recruiting classes. This is saban's seventh recruiting class if I counted right. He has had at least NINE of his classes ranked #1 by one service or another.

Just the fact that Les has his tigers playing toe to toe with the great red flow with all those weak arse low ranked recruiting classes he pulls to BR is TOTALLY AMAZING.

Auburn is not one to talk there mister expert.

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Auburn is not one to talk there mister expert.

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Yeah. As a Bama grad, I would rather prefer attrition through medical outs than via the Barn's preferred method... being charged by the DA and subsequent team dismissal.