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Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:43 am to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:43 am to Vecchio Cane
See you're one of those good dawg posters I was talking about. You have fun, talk smack, and then level headed. We all know in this day and age we cheat in some way, we however wrote the book on how not to. We deserve what we get, if for any other reason because of how dumb it was handled. This doesn't make me look down on any other SEC team at all. I look at it like, hats off to doing it cleaner. And no, that's not an excuse like alot have thrown out, about how everyone else does it. It's just simply saying yes we all do, but not at the dumb level we tried, or thinking it wouldn't catch up to us. You can go back and look at probably one of my first few posts and see that I said that in 2013 I could see it coming, but I just sat back and enjoyed the ride. Now since I sat back and enjoyed it, I have to sit back and take what's coming.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:45 am to Vecchio Cane
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The best part about this is they think witnesses are called and give testimony during this phase
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:46 am to bamasgot13
Well, it always pays to be optimistic and yet realistic. That's about the best most of us have got right now. There are idiots among us who think it "will be nothing." But the realists know better than that. Not much more to say honestly. I've tried to get more fans onboard with the current season, and I think most are. But there are always a handful at least who think it's all about a bowl game and the other guaranteed 12 games mean nothing without that possibility. I just don't feel that way.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:46 am to Herman Frisco
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Correct me but there's no cross examination of witnesses at this meeting,? And the NCAA is the only side to call witnesses?
You are correct
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:47 am to olemissfan26
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Even after the meeting we won't know anything immediately. We will have to wait another few months to get their verdict.
8-12 weeks
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:47 am to Herman Frisco
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Correct me but there's no cross examination of witnesses at this meeting,? And the NCAA is the only side to call witnesses
Not sure about that. I do think too many are ignoring the fact that the COI is who grants immunity, not the Enforcement staff.
The COI already saw enough proof of SA#39 being paid to grant him immunity in exchange for corroborating testimony. OM agreed to the damning allegation. If SA#39's testimony gets tossed, OM still admitted to the allegation. "Leo lied" is the main chorus of OM's Kabuki theatre
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:47 am to Herman Frisco
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Correct me but there's no cross examination of witnesses at this meeting,? And the NCAA is the only side to call witnesses?
Pretty much correct.
The only people that can ask questions of those asked to attend are COI members.
Neither the University nor the NCAA enforcement staff will question a soul. They can request that the COI ask a question, but the committee is under no obligation to honor that request.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:49 am to bamasgot13
My position has always been just like those south Floridian are feeling now. Get out of town for awhile, assess the damage however large or small when you come home, then get to rebuilding. We aren't going to know anything til November either way. I'll be thinking about Cal.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:49 am to bamasgot13
Ready for this shite to be done so we can take the punishment from the NCAA and stop hearing about it.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:51 am to Saskwatch
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He didn't. Some parts were probably true but he's all over the place with his story. It won't matter. NCAA wont let this be another failed endeavor.
This is the "we are innocent, but the world is against us and thats not fair" speech.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:51 am to JustGetItRight
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What happens during a Committee on Infractions hearing?
Introductions: The committee chair calls the meeting to order and all individuals participating in the hearing are introduced on the record.
Opening statements: The institution, any involved individuals and a representative from the NCAA enforcement staff are each provided an opportunity to make a brief opening statement (usually 5-10 minutes) focused on the infractions case and underlying violations.
Review of allegations: For each allegation, the enforcement staff presents a general description of the allegation and the information it believes supports a finding that violations occurred.
The institution responds to the allegation.
The involved individuals named in the allegations respond.
Committee members may ask questions at any time during the discussion of an allegation. It is possible that the parties will be requested to respond to questions before their formal presentations.
The Committee on Infractions allows all parties to present any information relevant to the allegation and does not set time limits on the discussion of an allegation. The purpose of the hearing is to provide each party an opportunity to present all information it deems important for the committee to review.
If the institution, any involved individual or the enforcement staff wishes to ask a question of another party, that question should be directed to the committee, which will then decide if the question is appropriate and, if so, direct it to the appropriate party.
The committee will discuss any procedural concerns or issues related to the enforcement staff’s conduct if such issues are raised in the response to the notice of allegations or at the hearing.
Closing statements: After the discussion of all allegations, each party is provided an opportunity to make a brief closing statement.
Are witnesses called during a hearing?
No. The committee may ask questions of involved individuals at the hearing and may also inquire about information reported by witnesses or developed by the enforcement staff, institution or involved individuals. However, witnesses are not summoned.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:51 am to Rebelatheart42
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Rebelatheart42
Again
Good on ya, brother. Focus on the good stuff for the next few years and come out of this for the wiser.
It's gonna be a Chamber of Commerce day in Oxford tomorrow. Soak it up and pour one for Vecchio from the interwebs
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:51 am to Rougarou4lsu
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Pretty sure we're all just happy it's almost over.
I get that.
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Torturing the Mississippi fans again? Guess you're still pissed about those two losses
How is asking them a question about the end of a long drawn out process finally arriving "torturing them".
And, no. Not "stilled pissed about those two losses". Bama still won the SEC both years, won a natty one of those years, so it's all good here.
You still pissed about those 6 straight losses and trying to project?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:59 am to Vecchio Cane
Spot on with everything and I'll pour one out for you. Not really anything else we can do at this point. It's not like some miracle is going to happen and we get a slap. And anyone who believes the sunshine being pumped should have their fan card removed. Sometimes the glasses have to come off to be able to see reality. Right now, those glasses need to be locked up.
And insideradvantage, I'm right there with you brother, we just have to make the best of what we're dealt.
And insideradvantage, I'm right there with you brother, we just have to make the best of what we're dealt.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:04 am to Rebelatheart42
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See you're one of those good dawg posters I was talking about. You have fun, talk smack, and then level headed. We all know in this day and age we cheat in some way, we however wrote the book on how not to. We deserve what we get, if for any other reason because of how dumb it was handled. This doesn't make me look down on any other SEC team at all. I look at it like, hats off to doing it cleaner. And no, that's not an excuse like alot have thrown out, about how everyone else does it. It's just simply saying yes we all do, but not at the dumb level we tried, or thinking it wouldn't catch up to us. You can go back and look at probably one of my first few posts and see that I said that in 2013 I could see it coming, but I just sat back and enjoyed the ride. Now since I sat back and enjoyed it, I have to sit back and take what's coming.
This x 1000, everyone else is/was speeding a bit, maybe running 75 in a 65 and the PO PO just really did not care, you frickers blew by at 125 and flipped them off, stupid move that has consequences.
The fact that OM fans were lied to so many times by the admin would piss me off even more.
Sept 12th I would fire every sob in the AD's office, this has been handled as poorly as possible and the penalties amplified by cover up almost as much as by the cheating, this could have already been over with.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:10 am to NYCAuburn
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NYCAuburn
The thing that's amazing to me is how guys like the fruit loop that made those 'here is what I heard' claims still get traction.
Back before the internet, you could get away with it because it wasn't easy to find out how things like COI meetings were conducted. Now bogus claims like those are debunked with a 30 second google yet this Yancy guy not only has the balls to put out an obvious lie, a significant number of people still eat it up. There really are suckers born every minute.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:10 am to Ancient Astronaut
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Feeling very positive
I'm curious. To what do you attribute this cause for positivity? Are you just a positive person by nature, or is there some thing/reason you feel positive about OM's situation with the NCAA?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:12 am to JustGetItRight
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Back before the internet, you could get away with it because it wasn't easy to find out how things like COI meetings were conducted. Now bogus claims like those are debunked with a 30 second google yet this Yancy guy not only has the balls to put out an obvious lie, a significant number of people still eat it up. There really are suckers born every minute.
Just look at the political news.
Tech is a double edged blade when it comes to stuff like this. People see someone say something, see an infographic or meme, then it becomes a fact. People still just blindly believe anything anyone says
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