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re: Last football national championship for each SEC team
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:17 am to derSturm37
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:17 am to derSturm37
What about something like this?
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:25 am to Korin
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What about something like this?
1) Admittedly I have NO answer for our equating division championships with conference championships (including and excluding lost tie-breakers), and I am ardently opposed to our doing so.
2) Research 1919 and 1927. I can FULLY accept our claiming those national championships. Texas A&M is just in WHOLEHEARTEDLY believing that either team was the greatest in the nation its respective year. I do NOT understand why we don't argue for 1917, as well.
NOTE: There was a 400 page hardcover book in my elementary school library titled College Football. It was published in 195X and printed in like 1960. It was ancient, but not overtly checked-out and/or read, and so it was still on the shelf there those decades later. I recall distinctly that it cited Texas A&M as nat. champs in 1919 and 1927 [as well as 1917 and 1939], and this was years before Sagarin had a computer and probalby before Billingsely had a report. The book was NOT published in Texas, let alone by the Texas A&M University press!
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 1:36 am
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:35 am to derSturm37
Or you could just be making that up.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:37 am to Korin
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Or you could just be making that up.
I could. I damned sure could.
Did I tell you about seeing Elvis on the Mother Ship last night?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:46 am to Korin
Aggie claims a Big 12 championship in 2010?
frick it. Mizzou Big 12 champions '07, '08, '10 and SEC champions 2013, 2014.
frick it. Mizzou Big 12 champions '07, '08, '10 and SEC champions 2013, 2014.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:54 am to KCM0Tiger
Yeah, we really need a third spot for "Division Champions". When Missouri's laughing at you you had better be New Jersey.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 5:17 am to derSturm37
How many times HAS Missouri been to a conference championship game without winning one? I guess that is the drawback in constantly playing in the weaker division
Posted on 2/1/15 at 6:25 am to boxedlunch
Posted on 2/1/15 at 7:52 am to Korin
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Both the NCAA and SEC disagree.
Neither of which are in the football national championship business
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 7:52 am
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:05 am to Korin
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No FWAA and NFF?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:10 am to ctiger69
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Texas A&M= (1939) 76 years ago....but they have a lot of money, big stadium, and a ton of fans.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:02 am to NorthGwinnett LSU
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LINK
Here dip shite this one spells it all out for. Damn was that so hard
LINK
And another
What, precisely, does this tell us?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:12 am to boxedlunch
You asked for a source that shows the selectors I am giving you one. Also I provided proof that the NCAA doesn't recognize FBS national champions.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:37 am to NorthGwinnett LSU
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You asked for a source that shows the selectors I am giving you one. Also I provided proof that the NCAA doesn't recognize FBS national champions.
You did not provide a list that shows "the" selectors, you provided a list that showed some selectors. Because it is not a complete list and contains several completely pointless selectors, it is worthless outside of a reference to those particular titles and nothing can be determined from it alone.
And again, the NCAA publishes a list of title winners yearly and has for decades. That's clear recognition, even if it does not fit your definition of such.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:40 am to NorthGwinnett LSU
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the NCAA doesn't recognize FBS national champions.
Sure they do.
Google, "ncaa recognized football national championships" and the very first result is the NCAA website: https://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
LSU, however, doesn't acknowledge retroactive title awards. That would be dishonorable.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:43 am to boxedlunch
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Your "case" would impress nobody with moderate knowledge on the subject. Saying a team won a title because message board geeks presented it to them isn't going to impress people unless they don't know better.
Nineteen Forty-one.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:21 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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LSU, however, doesn't acknowledge retroactive title awards. That would be dishonorable.
LSU Acknowledges 1908 Retroactive Championship
"Many years later, in awarding retroactive national titles to colleges, the 1908 Tigers were named co-national champions with Pennsylvania by the National Championship Foundation."
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:23 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Nineteen Forty-one.
Funny, though it might be, you thinking 7 worthless selectors from random guys creating ranking systems is somehow greater than the second most respected selector of its time is even funnier.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 11:19 am to boxedlunch
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Funny, though it might be, you thinking 7 worthless selectors from random guys creating ranking systems is somehow greater than the second most respected selector of its time is even funnier.
Wow, I've never seen a Bama fan actually defend 1941.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 11:36 am to boxedlunch
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LSU Acknowledges 1908 Retroactive Championship "Many years later, in awarding retroactive national titles to colleges, the 1908 Tigers were named co-national champions with Pennsylvania by the National Championship Foundation."
w/e
From the 2014 LSU Football Media Guide:
"LSU’s Illustrious Football History
3 National Championships"
Page 15.
...Then Pages 16-18 go on to review LSU's 3 MNC seasons: 1958, 2003 and 2007.
Whereas your source:
Note: In recognition of LSU’s great undefeated football team of 1908, this is the second in a series of three stories to appear on LSUsports.net this week documenting that team. Today’s story is an excerpt from the book “The LSU Football Vault” about the 1908 season. Yesterday’s story was about the 1907 season that set the stage for the heroics of the 1908 squad, and tomorrow’s story is about the great Doc Fenton.
Excerpt from “The LSU Football Vault” by Herb Vincent:
"A doubt was cast on this team because of accusations of recruiting violations from Tulane that were enough for some publications to list Auburn as the champions of the south prior to the SIAA’s clearance of any wrongdoing by LSU. But clearly the LSU Tigers were the best in the south and the first truly great team in LSU football annals. Many years later, in awarding retroactive national titles to colleges, the 1908 Tigers were named co-national champions with Pennsylvania by the National Championship Foundation."
That is a true statement, the NCF did name the Tigers co-champions, but officially, the University doesn't count that towards national championships awarded as per the media guide.
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