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re: Laremy Tunsil's stepfather/Ole miss

Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by HottyToddy7
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:16 pm to
So Tunsil's mom is at fault for how the NCAA spent it's time and money? GTFO with your BS. You want this to happen so badly you can't even sleep at night.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:17 pm to
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all they have is $800


Maybe - maybe not
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:17 pm to
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The reaches and stretches here are amazing



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probably told about 6 schools he was going to that school.



I agree


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Miller isn't going to provide any information to bring us down outside of what he told the NCAA last summer. If you are depending on a guy that wore Laremy's football knee brace as a ploy to show he was injured to court and make a fool of himself than you are probably going to be disappointed.


Himself is not going to bring OM Down. OM is not going down in a death penalty scenario. But he is part of whats going to be a major violation and what are considered somewhat severe punishments by the NCAA. Your dismissal of what he provides to the discussion just because of the court case etc... only makes a fool out of you
Posted by bamasgot13
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:19 pm to
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In the article that came out yesterday it includes a quote from Tunsil's mother saying that they weren't helped financially moving to Oxford


Did she say if they were helped with rent and or utilities after moving to oxford?
Posted by HottyToddy7
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:20 pm to
It's not about the court case. It is he shot his load to the NCAA 12 months ago with all he had. The NCAA looked under those rocks, didn't find anything. But now they have random vague text messages, these same rocks are going to have the information they need? No they will go down the same avenues that Miller gave them the first time and the same result will happen. If he had pay for play information that the NCAA would of had it last July.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:21 pm to
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The NCAA looked under those rocks, didn't find anything


So they did not find a level 1 violation?


Do you live under those rocks?


Posted by bamasgot13
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:21 pm to
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The reaches and stretches here are amazing. Especially the Laremey was committed to UGA stuff. He never was. Private commitments are given to schools all the time and broken.


So a private commitment given and broken doesn't count as a commitment, but a public commitment given and broken does? That's some strange logic bruh.
Posted by HottyToddy7
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:22 pm to
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Maybe - maybe not


Let me rephrase. Based on the NOA (everything they had up until it was released) was $800. Laremy isn't taking. Miller has already done his best to bring LT and OM down. Where else are a random text going to lead the NCAA in a direction they haven't looked at before?
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
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This is also a reach. Miller only wanted to bring Freeze in to ask him NCAA questions. OM and Freeze knew this. All 14 coaches in the SEC would have done the same thing. It is called having a good lawyer and playing the court system game against sleaze ball who has already tried this once before. But you want this to fit your narrative so badly you won't even consider the actual reasons for this and you call OM fans skewed? I think you have it backwards.


That doesn't answer the question though. Was Freeze's request to have the deposition sealed granted or not?


Listen, I know Miller is a POS and I personally think his grandstanding is ridiculous. But his lack of credibility goes on the back burner if he has a paper trail or electronic communication of OM wrongdoing.

Just like Nevin Shapiro providing the NCAA with evidence on Miami while he sat his arse in federal prison. I'm not sure the NCAA cares about credibility when they have a bank statement in their hand or a cell phone with messages back 'n forth between a player/coach/booster, etc.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
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You realize this is the same guy who has a record of insurance fraud and domestic abuse. This guy has no value as a credible source. Bama and State fans can hope though. I mean, providing emails, facebook messages and texts has to count for something


Miller may lack cred, but that doesn't necessarily mean the evidence he provides does as well.
Posted by HottyToddy7
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
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So a private commitment given and broken doesn't count as a commitment, but a public commitment given and broken does? That's some strange logic bruh.


That's called recruiting. And it happens dozens of times each year to each school. If you don't understand that then you are completely ignorant of this situation as a whole.
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:25 pm to
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You realize this is the same guy who has a record of insurance fraud and domestic abuse. This guy has no value as a credible source. Bama and State fans can hope though.


Yep, we are desperate to bring y'all down. For two years in a row, you've ruined our season. I mean, who wants Amy kind of championship, if you didn't go undefeated? That's like banging Charlotte McKinney, but not getting all three holes.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:26 pm to
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That's called recruiting. And it happens dozens of times each year to each school. If you don't understand that then you are completely ignorant of this situation as a whole.


So you are saying he could have easily been committed to UGA...
Posted by HottyToddy7
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:26 pm to
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Listen, I know Miller is a POS and I personally think his grandstanding is ridiculous. But his lack of credibility goes on the back burner if he has a paper trail or electronic communication of OM wrongdoing.



Why the frick wouldn't he have given the it to the NCAA last July if he had it. He RAN to the NCAA and told anyone who would listen everything he has to give. That is why it is hilarious to me that he now has financial records and messages that he didn't hav 12 months ago. That doesn't fit logically into the guy's history with the NCAA.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:28 pm to
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So Tunsil's mom is at fault for how the NCAA spent it's time and money? GTFO with your BS. You want this to happen so badly you can't even sleep at night.


I'll have you know I'm sleeping fine with a Melatonin and a tumbler of bourbon every night.


I just asked a question as to why the NCAA felt the need to allocate 100 man-hours interviewing someone with zero credibility? And I wondered if they saw fit to allocate equal resources to interviewing a reliable person with quality character that was intimately close to the situation > -> Tunsil's mother?
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:28 pm to
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Why the frick wouldn't he have given the it to the NCAA last July if he had it. He RAN to the NCAA and told anyone who would listen everything he has to give. That is why it is hilarious to me that he now has financial records and messages that he didn't hav 12 months ago. That doesn't fit logically into the guy's history with the NCAA.


Some folks like Miller want hush money. How do you get that? By withholding info.
Posted by HottyToddy7
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:29 pm to
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So you are saying he could have easily been committed to UGA...


And OM and Bama and FSU and Auburn and Clemson... See how this works. Miller is a POS. He realized schools gave him shite because they thought he was a player in LT's recruitment. He gets what he wants, he tells school that he will deliver LT on signing day, everyone is happy. Except Miller did that about 5 or 6 times with different schools.

This schools recruiting guys are all saying LT is a private commit. He goes to OM. People get pissed. This happens every year though. Jeffrey Simmons was a private to OM, State and Bama. Chose State. It happens every year.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:30 pm to
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Some folks like Miller want hush money. How do you get that? By withholding info.


This is a reach and by no means fits logically into how Miller has operated in the past.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:33 pm to
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And it happens dozens of times each year to each school.


Let's not try to act as if all situations are the same.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:34 pm to
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And OM and Bama and FSU and Auburn and Clemson.... See how this works


Yes apparently you dont. You are trying to argue that he wasnt committed or silent doesnt matter on one side, then also saying that he could have committed and silent are just like public


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He realized schools have him shite because they thought he was a player in LT's recruitment. He gets what he wants, he tells school that he will deliver LT on signing day, everyone is happy. Except Miller did that about 5 or 6 times with different schools.



Was it you who made a comment about reaching and stretching?

I like how you dismiss someone then create your own fabrications
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This schools recruiting guys are all saying LT is a private commit. He goes to OM. People get pissed. This happens every year though. Jeffrey Simmons was a private to OM, State and Bama. Chose State. It happens every year.


So again, he could have been committed to UGA and your dismissal of that commitment is a reach and stretch as well



This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 3:35 pm
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