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re: Laremy Tunsil's stepfather/Ole miss
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:03 pm to HottyToddy7
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:03 pm to HottyToddy7
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Find me an article that says "Tunsil commits to UGA".
It shouldn't be too hard.
So silent commits don't exist? Gotcha.
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And Miller doesn't count as a source
why not? wouldn't he have been in a unique position to know about such commitments? didn't he just show SI Facebook messages talking about to OM about Tunsil being a UGA commit twice and OM responding?
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he probably took money from UGA
Probably. And then he convinced Laremy to go to OM for just $800. That's probably exactly what happened.
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I want a Laremy public announcement.
The last time Laremy made a public announcement (albeit via social media) about Ole Miss it didn't work out too well. I understand you are asking about an announcement of his commitment, but you aren't dense enough to think private/silent commits don't happen or that Tunsil wasn't such a commitment to UGA at some point.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:06 pm to HottyToddy7
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He has been telling everyone that would listen, including the NCAA, for 12 months now. If he knew where the skeletons were then they would have been in the NOA.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Freeze has been telling his recruits that most of the allegations are against the womens basketball team and the football allegations happened under Nutt. If Freeze knew the allegations were severe and happened under his watch why would he tell recruits that?
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:13 pm to allin2010
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His mother was offered the job opportunity to house sit and to keep the cars running. Nothing to see here...
This is so tired and played out. This is tRant, not some AU conspiracy board. Where has the proof been on this accusation?
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allin2010
you tend to like to paint AU as being as pure as the driven snow and Bama as being very dirty. Why do YOU think Bama hasn't been slammed by NCAA if they are as dirty as you like to think them to be?
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:15 pm to bamasgot13
You've got to understand that this is the same fanbase that believed the stars aligned perfectly with best friends and brothers of teammates to land the flukiest of top 10 classes in the history of recruiting.
Multiple top 15 players from Georgia, Florida, and Illinois committed to a second year coach at a school that hadn't won anything of significance in a long, long time.
Then they believed that the NCAA investigation was only for women's bball. Then they believed that the NCAA wasn't going to find any dirt on them because of how sophisticated they were. Then they believed that there was only one or two 'serious' violations, and those were incurred by a previous staff (which coincidentally had their current HC on it). They currently believe that everyone is out to get them from the NCAA to rival schools, and it's all some big conspiracy because they won a pair of big regular season games against a team they play every year
Years and years of denial have honestly led them to believe that all of this impropriety is made up, that it was a few hundred dollars and simple mistakes and oversights made by rogue agents and boosters. And if you can't definitively prove, on this very message board, ironclad evidence of cheating, then nothing happened and that the NCAA will let them skate
Multiple top 15 players from Georgia, Florida, and Illinois committed to a second year coach at a school that hadn't won anything of significance in a long, long time.
Then they believed that the NCAA investigation was only for women's bball. Then they believed that the NCAA wasn't going to find any dirt on them because of how sophisticated they were. Then they believed that there was only one or two 'serious' violations, and those were incurred by a previous staff (which coincidentally had their current HC on it). They currently believe that everyone is out to get them from the NCAA to rival schools, and it's all some big conspiracy because they won a pair of big regular season games against a team they play every year
Years and years of denial have honestly led them to believe that all of this impropriety is made up, that it was a few hundred dollars and simple mistakes and oversights made by rogue agents and boosters. And if you can't definitively prove, on this very message board, ironclad evidence of cheating, then nothing happened and that the NCAA will let them skate
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:21 pm to UAtide11
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You've got to understand that this is the same fanbase that believed the stars aligned perfectly with best friends and brothers of teammates to land the flukiest of top 10 classes in the history of recruiting.
Multiple top 15 players from Georgia, Florida, and Illinois committed to a second year coach at a school that hadn't won anything of significance in a long, long time.
Then they believed that the NCAA investigation was only for women's bball. Then they believed that the NCAA wasn't going to find any dirt on them because of how sophisticated they were. Then they believed that there was only one or two 'serious' violations, and those were incurred by a previous staff (which coincidentally had their current HC on it). They currently believe that everyone is out to get them from the NCAA to rival schools, and it's all some big conspiracy because they won a pair of big regular season games against a team they play every year
Years and years of denial have honestly led them to believe that all of this impropriety is made up, that it was a few hundred dollars and simple mistakes and oversights made by rogue agents and boosters. And if you can't definitively prove, on this very message board, ironclad evidence of cheating, then nothing happened and that the NCAA will let them skate
Agree with all of this, but you left off one:
They also believed the lies fed to them by those in their Ath Dept (via the local writers who were perfectly ready and willing to believe whatever they were told) that most of the football stuff was related to a previous staff and nothing major was related to this staff.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:25 pm to bamasgot13
He included that in his post FYI. He summed them up well.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:28 pm to bamasgot13
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They also believed the lies fed to them by those in their Ath Dept
correct, they were led to believe these things. They are pissed at Lindsey Miller, the NCAA, fans on this board, etc. They should be pissed at Freeze and Bjork and their beat writers.
Another thing, Bruce Pearl got a three year show-cause for lying about a cookout. They gave Donnie Tyndall a ten year show-cause for lying about what he was doing at Southern Miss.
OM fans better hope and pray Freeze doesn't get caught in a lie over this stuff.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:31 pm to HottyToddy7
NCAA getting ready to hammer OM into submission. It is going to be ugly.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:33 pm to HottyToddy7
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You realize this is the same guy who has a record of insurance fraud and domestic abuse. This guy has no value as a credible source. Bama and State fans can hope though.
I mean, providing emails, facebook messages and texts has to count for something
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:41 pm to djsdawg
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He included that in his post FYI. He summed them up well.
He touched on it by saying they believed it would be mostly old staff and minor for current, but he didn't say WHY they believed it. The reason why (their current admin fed lies to local media, who believed without question and sold it to the public, who lapped it up) is key. It speaks to how believable any future comments by their admin should be (or not be, in this case).
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:45 pm to DALSU
Aren't you the guy who guaranteed Jimbo to LSU?
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:02 pm to reggierayreb
The reaches and stretches here are amazing. Especially the Laremey was committed to UGA stuff. He never was. Private commitments are given to schools all the time and broken. Laremey (or Miller on his behalf) probably told about 6 schools he was going to that school.
Miller isn't going to provide any information to bring us down outside of what he told the NCAA last summer. If you are depending on a guy that wore Laremy's football knee brace as a ploy to show he was injured to court and make a fool of himself than you are probably going to be disappointed.
Miller isn't going to provide any information to bring us down outside of what he told the NCAA last summer. If you are depending on a guy that wore Laremy's football knee brace as a ploy to show he was injured to court and make a fool of himself than you are probably going to be disappointed.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:02 pm to HottyToddy7
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The reaches and stretches here are amazing.
ironic
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:06 pm to cas4t
The whole OM threw buckets of cash at the '13 class is hilarious. That's what happens when you are a flyby fan of recruiting and have no idea how it works or what actually went into that happening. The only out of left field get that year was Tunsil. And the NCAA has been trying their hardest for 3+ years to find pay for play stuff and all they have is $800 and a vague text message with no one even giving an affirmative answer.
To think we are getting hammered is hoping that the NCAA finds something where they have been looking under the same rocks for 4 years. That's just being hopeful and ignorant and sad that you want a bunch of kids and college football program to get destroyed because they beat your team. It's taking your ball and gong home mentality that you need the NCAA to overcome your shortcomings as a program.
To think we are getting hammered is hoping that the NCAA finds something where they have been looking under the same rocks for 4 years. That's just being hopeful and ignorant and sad that you want a bunch of kids and college football program to get destroyed because they beat your team. It's taking your ball and gong home mentality that you need the NCAA to overcome your shortcomings as a program.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:09 pm to UAtide11
quote:Was Freeze's request to have the deposition in the sealed in the Miller/Tunsil civil case granted or not?
Another thing, Bruce Pearl got a three year show-cause for lying about a cookout. They gave Donnie Tyndall a ten year show-cause for lying about what he was doing at Southern Miss.
OM fans better hope and pray Freeze doesn't get caught in a lie over this stuff.
Remember he didn't want his deposition public because he thought the NCAA could/would use the information against him.
What a mess to find your arse in....lie in a deposition and you're screwed, let the NCAA find out you lied to them through info from a deposition and you're royally screwed.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:13 pm to RT1941
This is also a reach. Miller only wanted to bring Freeze in to ask him NCAA questions. OM and Freeze knew this. All 14 coaches in the SEC would have done the same thing. It is called having a good lawyer and playing the court system game against sleaze ball who has already tried this once before. But you want this to fit your narrative so badly you won't even consider the actual reasons for this and you call OM fans skewed? I think you have it backwards.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:14 pm to bigdubya11
quote:For a man with zero credibility the NCAA damn sure spent a ton of man-hours interviewing him and the information he turned over to them.
In the article that came out yesterday it includes a quote from Tunsil's mother saying that they weren't helped financially moving to Oxford, unlike what Miller said. Dude is a POS and has zero credibility.
Did they spend equal man-hours interviewing Momma Tunsil?
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:16 pm to HottyToddy7
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That's just being hopeful
Well yeah.
That's what ALL of this is about for the Rant... Eternal hope that Ole Miss gets hammered and momentum (mainly recruiting) slow down so we dont continue to skull frick their team on the field in the coming years.
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