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re: Lane Kiffin possibly to Alabama as OC
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:07 pm to GoBigOrange86
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:07 pm to GoBigOrange86
I'm also a lifelong Alabama fan that only caught the tail-end of the Stallings years. Mike Dubose, Dennis Franchione, and Mike Shula were the coaches during my two degrees from Alabama. I have a little better perspective than some of the younger Tide fans that have had Nick Saban during their college years.
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:09 pm to genro
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Exactly our offense has improved leaps and bounds under Nuss. Our defense has regressed. The defense of 12 and 13 was not in the same universe as 09 or 11. Those were legendary.
That's the biggest difference. If we didn't have Nuss, we lose at least 3 games this year instead of 2, and 2 or 3 in 2012. Fact.
Wrong, just wrong. You are missing the obvious that you spelled out yourself.
08-11 Bama slowed games down and physically wore down opponents. Heck in 12 and 13 Bama did that too, in SOME games.
Offenses like A&Ms and Auburn thrive on getting the ball back quickly. They press when they go long periods of time without the ball. Long sustained drives really disrupt these offenses, hence why LSU has had so much success against these types of teams.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:10 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Those Alabama fans that went through the Shula years know very well what losing looks and feels like.
Yeah I don't get what GBO is talking about. Our recent losing seasons (the worst period in our history) don't compare to other team's losing season's. We've never come close to the rock bottom years Bama and others have suffered.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:10 pm to bamafan1001
Lane Kiffin possibly to Alabama as OC
Please let that be true.
Please let that be true.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:11 pm to bamafan1001
Sheridan gonna Sheridan
Anywho, as a Tennessee fan I wouldn't give a shite. I have more important things to worry about
Anywho, as a Tennessee fan I wouldn't give a shite. I have more important things to worry about
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:14 pm to bamafan1001
My biggest thing with Nuss is his lack of in game adjustments. If his game plan that he had beforehand works, he looks like a genius. If it doesn't, he has no idea what to do. Someone tell me how Nuss adjusted to OU defense's aggression. I'll wait.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:14 pm to Prof
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Yeah I don't get what GBO is talking about. Our recent losing seasons (the worst period in our history) don't compare to other team's losing season's. We've never come close to the rock bottom years Bama and others have suffered.
Even during Alabama's bad years they were competitive. It took us 5 overtimes to beat their 9 loss team in 2003. They had the reprieve of the 2002 and 2005 seasons during their "down period." They never had TWO consecutive losing seasons, let alone the four we've been through.
The only "name" program to have suffered this level of atrocity for this sustained a period of time in the last few decades at least is LSU from the late 80s to the mid 90s.
It's true that we haven't had an 8 or 9 loss season, but we've still experienced losing to the likes of Wyoming, a horrendous UCLA team, getting blown out by Vanderbilt, and losing to among the worst teams Kentucky has fielded.
Alabama's got nothing on us.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:16 pm to Prof
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UT's offense was outrageously fast (one of the fastest in the NCAA) and prolific in 2010-2012 but that same offense cost us games because we couldn't keep our defense, which was already our weak spot, off the field. More than one game was lost that because we didn't run the ball more and control the clock. Scoring in 1 minute 30 isn't always good thing.
Well said. Heck Bray probably had better numbers than Manning did at UT. Does that mean that there were better offensive coaches at UT recently than there were then?
Great offensive coaches know how to dictate games. Their objective is not to score as many points and rack up as many stats as possible but rather to WIN GAMES.
Sometimes winning a game means using the talent you have to decisively slow down a game and methodically move down the field. The Bama D desperately needed the offense to do this against OU in order to regroup. Instead, we decided to get into a footrace with someone much faster.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:16 pm to Prof
Alabama hasn't had, at least since 1900, four consecutive losing seasons. The Shula years and the current plight at Tennessee are both bad for different reasons.
Edit: I misread your post.
Edit: I misread your post.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:20 pm to bamafan1001
Nussmeier seems to refuse to adjust to the defense. He calls the game he wants to regardless of what the defense is attempting to do.
That means stubbornly doing stuff the defense is selling out to stop way too often.
Kiffin was horrible at USC, particularly on offense, that would be a terrible hire.
That means stubbornly doing stuff the defense is selling out to stop way too often.
Kiffin was horrible at USC, particularly on offense, that would be a terrible hire.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:27 pm to CapstoneGrad06
I will say this about UT. The worst thing about their downtime is that it is a period of time where there are a lot of great coaches and programs in the league.
When Bama was struggling, the elite coaches in the league were Fulmer, Tubbs, Spurrier, Sherrill(ok that was a joke), and a young(ish) Saban.
Much different now, with Saban at his peak, Malzahn, Miles, Richt, Spurrier. Heck even coaches at historically average to bad teams are good: Freeze, Franklin, Mullen, Bielema
When Bama was struggling, the elite coaches in the league were Fulmer, Tubbs, Spurrier, Sherrill(ok that was a joke), and a young(ish) Saban.
Much different now, with Saban at his peak, Malzahn, Miles, Richt, Spurrier. Heck even coaches at historically average to bad teams are good: Freeze, Franklin, Mullen, Bielema
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:30 pm to bamafan1001
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Well said. Heck Bray probably had better numbers than Manning did at UT. Does that mean that there were better offensive coaches at UT recently than there were then?
Great offensive coaches know how to dictate games. Their objective is not to score as many points and rack up as many stats as possible but rather to WIN GAMES.
Sometimes winning a game means using the talent you have to decisively slow down a game and methodically move down the field. The Bama D desperately needed the offense to do this against OU in order to regroup. Instead, we decided to get into a footrace with someone much faster.
Bray broke many of Manning's records and was honestly more physically gifted than Manning at the same age, especially in terms of raw arm strength and quick release. Manning was smarter and far more mature and our coaching staff far superior to Dooley's staff. They ran the ball so little that our very good O-line had trouble knowing how to run block well -- they didn't have much experience at it!
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:32 pm to bamafan1001
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I will say this about UT. The worst thing about their downtime is that it is a period of time where there are a lot of great coaches and programs in the league.
Okay, that's actually a really good point.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:32 pm to Prof
bring in the #1 recruiting class, and we will be fine next year. run the ball then after we run the ball, run the ball oh and throw it too 
we will be hungry next year and playoffs 
we will be hungry next year and playoffs 
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:32 pm to bamafan1001
That would make 2 kiffens in the sec
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:36 pm to GoBigOrange86
You know it is kind of funny that the 2 most entitled and historically winningest programs in the SEC are sitting here arguing about who suffered most.
Especially when we all know that Tennessee's on the right track again (despite the battered wife syndrome that makes us think we'll never see a win again and playful trolling/wishes by our rivals that this won't happen) and we also know that even if Bama goes through a down cycle it too will right itself again.
Especially when we all know that Tennessee's on the right track again (despite the battered wife syndrome that makes us think we'll never see a win again and playful trolling/wishes by our rivals that this won't happen) and we also know that even if Bama goes through a down cycle it too will right itself again.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:38 pm to Prof
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You know it is kind of funny that the 2 most entitled and historically winningest programs in the SEC are sitting here arguing about who suffered most.
Isn't that what this rivalry is all about? "WE'RE the biggest losers!!!" "No, WE are!!!"
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Especially when we all know that Tennessee's on the right track again (despite the battered wife syndrome that makes us think we'll never see a win again and playful trolling/wishes by our rivals that this won't happen) and we also know that even if Bama goes through a down cycle it too will right itself again.
I think we're on the right track too. I was bummed about the Vandy loss, but I recognize that it takes time to install a winning attitude in a football program. I think the UGA and USC game shows that Butch Jones knows how to coach, and we know he knows how to recruit, so I think we will be back to winning sooner rather than later (finally).
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:40 pm to GoBigOrange86
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Isn't that what this rivalry is all about? "WE'RE the biggest losers!!!" "No, WE are!!!"
In a way, yeah it is. Tennessee and Bama will argue over whose the biggest anything. Doesn't matter if it's the biggest/best winner or biggest/best at losing, we wanna be the biggest and best at it.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:42 pm to Prof
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In a way, yeah it is. Tennessee and Bama will argue over whose the biggest anything. Doesn't matter if it's the biggest/best winner or biggest/best at losing, we wanna be the biggest and best at it.
It's one of the reasons I love college football so much -- the Bama rivalry. Although, that comes at the consternation of a LOT of other SEC fans
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:43 pm to Rebelfan1985
Wait, is this a real thing? Holy Shite. The guy has torpedoed two very good programs, and Bama wants to hire him?
This man made Ed Orgeron look good as a coach, people.
Wow, I guess Saban is bored.
This man made Ed Orgeron look good as a coach, people.
Wow, I guess Saban is bored.
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