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re: Lane Kiffin. Best OC in the nation or just the SEC?

Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41896 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

We are talking about this year dumb arse.



Except we're not. The post I replied to said the last 5 years.
Posted by reauxl tigers7
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
1139 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:37 pm to
Just the SEC
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5137 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:37 pm to
It starts and ends with Saban. There's your answer.
Posted by rohinaz
Scottsdale,az
Member since Dec 2013
243 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:40 pm to
The question is. Will he be your he next season. The Giants job just opened up....
Posted by DaBama
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2011
1630 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

It starts and ends with Saban.


Saban definitely sets the guidelines but there was a reason he took a chance on Kiffin despite popular opinion.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5137 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Saban definitely sets the guidelines but there was a reason he took a chance on Kiffin despite popular opinion.

Saban and the talent brought in makes him look really good.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

That's just not true. LSU has had great classes the last 5 years and they suck on offense


Bama averaged 40 yds a game more in passing, 1 pt. more a game, 50 yds less in rushing, and 14 yds less a game in total O than LSU. That was with a Sr. QB as opposed to Tr. So.

This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Doctor K
mandeville
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:10 pm to
I don't know who would be better.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:12 pm to
Bama didn't play the 128th, 126th, 109th, or 79th ranked rushing defenses. L5U did.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:14 pm to
Wait, so you're telling me he took the most talented roster in the country over the last 5+ years and was successful? Shocking.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

1 pt. more a game, 50 yds less in rushing, and 14 yds less a game in total O than LSU.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:19 pm to
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Broken record here. How would Alabama have done without Derek Henry and Calvin Ridley for the year? While you're at it, take Stewart out for 5 weeks, your starting FB/3rd RB out for 4 games, your 4th RB(Now your #2) out for the season, remove two promising WRs expected to contribute from the team and lean on your running game with your backup as the feature back while learning a new offense. That, of coarse is just the offense. Many more injuries on D. 8-4ish. Dan Enos says hi. Toledolololol
shite fire man! Y'all need to change out your S&C program over there - injuries like that are abnormal.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted by KiffinsVisor
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2014
1129 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:22 pm to
It's hard to compare pro style ocs and spread ocs because usually the spread guys have more yards, tds, etc. but as far as pro style, he is the best, hands down. I'm a pro style guy, not a spread guy, but there is a lot of really good spread ocs out there as well.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6287 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:40 pm to
What Enos did with Arky and their injuries was the best coaching job in the SEC. Brandon Allen was a horrible QB before Enos. He ended up being one if the best in the NCAA. Johnathan Williams was Arky's best offensive player and he never played a down. Their WR corps was depleted and they were not running the ball as well as last year.

He will probably be a HC again in 2 years or so.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Bama didn't play the 128th, 126th, 109th, or 79th ranked rushing defenses. L5U did.




Are you trying to argue that Cam is even in the same stratosphere as Lane Kiffin?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 2:53 pm to
An argument can be made for Enos. He is great. But Kiffn replaced everyone but 2 OLs and a receiver. He went from a passing heavy O to a run first O and produced a Heisman trophy winner. He was supposed to fail this year.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 3:02 pm to
I've said all along I think he's a good coach

He was set to bring UT out of the gutter. Remember the Cody blocked FG? Yea, Bama went on to win it all.

Then he took over a sanction ridden USC.

He's better than most give him credit for and what his resume' shows.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 3:06 pm
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6287 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 3:06 pm to
Alabama is awful on 3rd downs and has too many negative plays. Kiffin is inconsistent. He is Bill Walsh one week and Dave Rader the next.

I will say his time at Alabama has corresponded with some of the worst O-line play in the Saban era. He has worked miracles around that shite show.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 3:06 pm to
It should also be noted that Bama is stacked with 4 and 5 star talent, so that helps.
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1836 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 3:10 pm to
It is easy to be the best OC when you are at Bama. They reload they do not have off seasons.

Kiffin could not have gotten more than 14 points a game at Missouri this year with that horrible Oline. And 14 points a game would have won us 2 more games.
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