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re: Lane Kiffin. Best OC in the nation or just the SEC?

Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:12 pm to
Has anyone ever really doubted Kiffin's coaching ability? I think people see him as an immoral sexual predator with no allegiance or loyalty to anyone.

He's a great coach and a terrible person. If he wasn't a complete douche he would be a good HC somewhere and not just a great coordinator. Sadly he's wired like a creep and his ceiling is probably a coordinator on a great team. No way this guy can run a program without someone supervising his every move.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 1:13 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41896 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:14 pm to
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The true test of his ability as an OC will be to see how he does with another HC opportunity? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.



More about his maturation and if he's learned anything from pre-Saban days.

But I'm sure you knew what I meant.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Swm323
Pace,FL
Member since Mar 2013
1360 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Because Saban directs his arse and gets him those players. 

The true test will be to see how he does with another HC opportunity.


So to see how good he is as an OC we need to see how good he js as a HC? Got it.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13304 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:15 pm to
Any OC or team should do good with #1 recruiting classes every year.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58663 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

But I'm sure you knew what I meant.


Not really.
Posted by Swm323
Pace,FL
Member since Mar 2013
1360 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:17 pm to
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Any OC or team should do good with #1 recruiting classes every year.


That's just not true. LSU has had great classes the last 5 years and they suck on offense
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41896 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

So to see how good he is as an OC we need to see how good he js as a HC? Got it.


ffs

I'm sure Kiffin doesn't want to be an OC for the rest of his career.

The true test of IF Kiffin is, in fact, a better OC (OR HC) is to do it away from the best coach in CFB.

Sorry it was so hard to understand.
Posted by Snizzzo
Stankonia
Member since Oct 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:20 pm to
Broken record here.

How would Alabama have done without Derek Henry and Calvin Ridley for the year? While you're at it, take Stewart out for 5 weeks, your starting FB/3rd RB out for 4 games, your 4th RB(Now your #2) out for the season, remove two promising WRs expected to contribute from the team and lean on your running game with your backup as the feature back while learning a new offense.

That, of coarse is just the offense. Many more injuries on D.

8-4ish.

Dan Enos says hi.







Toledolololol
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4361 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:21 pm to
Nope !!!!
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41896 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

That's just not true. LSU has had great classes the last 5 years and they suck on offense


We suck at developing a QB & creativity, not offense.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:25 pm to
No, you suck on offense, unless you are playing the 128th, 126th, 109th, 91st, and 79th ranked rush defenses, where you built up your numbers.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:26 pm to
And Enos has been fantastic. It's neck and neck with him and Kiffin.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58663 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

We suck at developing a QB & creativity, not offense.


I guess if it makes you feel better. I'll just say that looking at most of our recent offensive rankings when compared to our recruiting is absolutely embarrassing.

You statement is a little like "other than that, how'd you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

How would Alabama have done without Derek Henry and Calvin Ridley for the year?


What would Arkansas have done without Brandon Allen, Hunter Henry, and Alex Collins for the year?
Posted by Snizzzo
Stankonia
Member since Oct 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:30 pm to
Kiffin has actual been very good. Since we are about to enter an off-season where we hear how we underachieved, or weren't ready for the hype, how would Bama have done in the aforementioned scenario? 8-4, or do you think ya'll would've been able to win 9 with that D'Line?

We just won 8 and are just the worst! #firebert
Posted by DaBama
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2011
1630 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:32 pm to
I don't know about Kiffin being the best but he has definitely impressed me this year. People can say what they want about Bama's abundance of offensive talent but there was a lack of experience across the board.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41896 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:32 pm to
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No, you suck on offense


And yet, Bama's schedule has been decisively easier before this year.

We've beaten Wisconsin, Oregon, TCU (just to name a few) with crap offense.

It's no secret our issue is at QB
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:35 pm to
We are talking about this year dumb arse.
Posted by Snizzzo
Stankonia
Member since Oct 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:35 pm to
We lost our number one rb, go-to receiver, etc., etc.... Did you really not understand the parallel?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58663 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:37 pm to
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We've beaten Wisconsin, Oregon, TCU (just to name a few) with crap offense.


Our offenses were good in those years (although our QB woes were still apparent even in 2011).
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 1:37 pm
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