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re: Kiffin leaked call with DeSanto Rollin
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:59 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:59 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Theres no documented evidence of him having mental health issues until March 3rd. Right after he was moved to the defensive side of the ball and to the scout team. That’s when he took off and didn’t come back for over two weeks on March 21st, which is when this recording happened. The fact that this “leak” happened the same day that Kiffin and Ole Miss filed a motion to have the lawsuit dismissed tells you that it’s just a quick money grab attempt. The kid is still on scholarship, not on the team but has all of the amenities that student athletes have when it comes to mental health. He’s a pussy like Kiffin said and anyone that believes him even remotely is a complete moron
I know how quickly mental health can spiral. Even if whatever happened with football was the last domino that fell to send him in a spiral, that doesn’t mean it was necessarily the first domino to fall
Is it possible it’s all a stunt? Sure
But you, as a fricking fan on sec rant dot com, sure as shite don’t know
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:00 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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He’s a pussy like Kiffin said and anyone that believes him even remotely is a complete moron
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:01 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:The justice system goes off the evidence presented. And all evidence presented points to this being bullshite
I know how quickly mental health can spiral. Even if whatever happened with football was the last domino that fell to send him in a spiral, that doesn’t mean it was necessarily the first domino to fall Is it possible it’s all a stunt? Sure But you, as a fricking fan on sec rant dot com, sure as shite don’t know
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:02 pm to Terrific Tales
So there should be no consequences for going dark on your coach and then coming back only to secretly record a convo where Kiffin was only making the point that you have to at least tell somebody what’s going on? He said that was disrespectful to be asked for the bare fricking minimum during his “mental health crisis”.
Mental health isn’t a joke. I don’t know why you’re trivializing it by not seeing this for what it is.
Mental health isn’t a joke. I don’t know why you’re trivializing it by not seeing this for what it is.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:05 pm to Terrific Tales
If there’s one thing this thread has shown me, it’s that people on this board know frick all about mental health issues
“No documented mental health issues”??
Seriously dude? Do you broadcast those to the world?
I’ve had mental health issues for like 5 years, and I promise you the only people to know are my parents, a few of my closest friends, and my ex girlfriend.
And if I got in a situation where something came out and mental health issues were mentioned, I wouldn’t have any “documentation” of mental health issues either. My close friends would say they knew, but people like your dumbass would call them liars because “oh they’re only talking about it because the story came out”
Jfc you sound like a complete idiot right now.
“No documented mental health issues”??
Seriously dude? Do you broadcast those to the world?
I’ve had mental health issues for like 5 years, and I promise you the only people to know are my parents, a few of my closest friends, and my ex girlfriend.
And if I got in a situation where something came out and mental health issues were mentioned, I wouldn’t have any “documentation” of mental health issues either. My close friends would say they knew, but people like your dumbass would call them liars because “oh they’re only talking about it because the story came out”
Jfc you sound like a complete idiot right now.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:07 pm to TMRebel
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So there should be no consequences for going dark on your coach and then coming back only to secretly record a convo where Kiffin was only making the point that you have to at least tell somebody what’s going on?
I literally said I agree with him getting kicked off the team
He told the coaches he wasn’t ready to talk yet. As someone who has dealt with issues I understand the complete inability to talk to anyone about things until you process them completely yourself. That’s all I’m saying
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:08 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:Nobody with actual mental health issues do.
Seriously dude? Do you broadcast those to the world?
Except for DeSanto Rollin apparently
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:09 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:So do you think he deserves the $40 million he’s suing for?
As someone who has dealt with issues I understand the complete inability to talk to anyone about things until you process them completely yourself. That’s all I’m saying
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:12 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Nobody with actual mental health issues do. Except for DeSanto Rollin.
You do realize you are literally contradicting yourself right?
And sure they do. It’s something called a cry for help. And it’s very common
The first time I saw one was when my childhood friend jumped from a 3rd story stairwell and almost died
And I learned at that point that when you bottle things up like he did, they tend to come out in explosive and dramatic ways.
Again, could the kid be faking it? Yes absolutely
Is it your place to say he definitely is when you have no fricking clue? Absolutely fricking not
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:14 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:When it’s blatantly obvious this is a cash grab attempt? It absolutely my place to call out bullshite because it takes away from those who have actual mental health problems
Again, could the kid be faking it? Yes absolutely Is it your place to say he definitely is when you have no fricking clue? Absolutely fricking not
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:16 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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When it’s blatantly obvious this is a cash grab attempt? It absolutely my place to call out bullshite because it takes away from those who have actual mental health problems
You know when you call it out? When it actually comes out that it was all bullshite. Because trust me, if he’s faking it it will come out
You don’t call it out now when we have no idea just because you want to defend the football program of your alma mater
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:18 pm to Terrific Tales
And to be clear it’s not just you. The reason I have a problem with this whole thing is that Lane did the exact same thing you’re doing.
At least you have some reason to believe it’s fake because it was recorded and leaked
Kiffin’s knowledge was just that the kid said he was struggling with mental health and that he wasn’t ready to talk about, and he talked to him like that. That’s inhumane. I really don’t care how you slice it
At least you have some reason to believe it’s fake because it was recorded and leaked
Kiffin’s knowledge was just that the kid said he was struggling with mental health and that he wasn’t ready to talk about, and he talked to him like that. That’s inhumane. I really don’t care how you slice it
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:21 pm to Terrific Tales
If he didn’t want uneducated people commenting, maybe he shouldn’t have sued the University for $40 million after continuing to go to school for free and releasing his lawsuit when he knew the most eyes would be on it and then “leaking” this tape when he knew his case was done for.
We don’t need your permission to comment. He gave it to us when he publicly filed and made accusations against the university for a ludicrous amount of money.
We don’t need your permission to comment. He gave it to us when he publicly filed and made accusations against the university for a ludicrous amount of money.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:21 pm to Terrific Tales
Yeah, if the kid was struggling that bad with mental health he wouldn’t walk in there and record a conversation. Why not go in apologize for the absence and explain why you haven’t been around. He sounds like a pouting kid that took his ball and went home when he realized things weren’t going his way.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:22 pm to TMRebel
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If he didn’t want uneducated people commenting, maybe he shouldn’t have sued the University for $40 million after continuing to go to school for free and releasing his lawsuit when he knew the most eyes would be on it and then “leaking” this tape when he knew his case was done for. We don’t need your permission to comment. He gave it to us when he publicly filed and made accusations against the university for a ludicrous amount of money.
I literally couldn’t care less about the lawsuit. The legal system will do what it does. I only care about the humanity of the interaction, and Kiffin was a complete dick here
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:24 pm to Terrific Tales
So going off of your logic here, do you know what type of outreach Kiffin tried beforehand? The effort he may have gone through to help him before this recorded conversation? Or are you commenting without knowing shite too?
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:29 pm to GIbson05
Few people are going to come off sounding great dealing with the situation Kiffin dealt with. He was rightfully pissed. Big deal. If somebody that worked for me went radio silent for weeks I’d be pissed off regardless of why. We all deal with shite but you still have obligations to your team. A lot of people rely on you. The bare minimum is just responding to your boss and he couldn’t do that.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:30 pm to TMRebel
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So going off of your logic here, do you know what type of outreach Kiffin tried beforehand? The effort he may have gone through to help him before this recorded conversation? Or are you commenting without knowing shite too?
I know that in the tape he says “you were reached out to saying that the head coach wants to speak to you”
You tell me if that sounds like Lane reached out to him directly
And to be clear, I don’t think it’s Lane’s job to reach out to him directly or even to deal with his mental health concerns, but that doesnt mean he has to be a dick to the guy.
Like just say: “Rollin, I’m sorry that you’ve been going through something, but your lack of communication with the staff and failure to show up has left us no choice but to remove you from the team. I hope you get the help you need”
Not: “what fricking world do you live in? Go fricking read your rights about mental health. We can kick you off the team”
I mean seriously are you really so obtuse you can’t see the difference there?
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:45 pm to Terrific Tales
Are you that obtuse to realize this is Rollins recording, that he started unbeknownst to Kiffin, and seemingly starts in the middle of a conversation and not the beginning?
They even have a back and forth during this recording about how Kiffin understands that he may be having issues and he’s not trivializing them but he can’t ghost his responsibilities. It’s only after Kiffin is called “disrespectful” that he completely loses his cool and goes off in the way you don’t like.
Did he lash out? Hell yeah. And I’m not going to blame him for it because I have no idea any of the details about their interactions before this weaponized recording.
You have no idea what happened before he hit the record button. Again, using your logic, you’re commenting when you don’t know shite about the situation.
They even have a back and forth during this recording about how Kiffin understands that he may be having issues and he’s not trivializing them but he can’t ghost his responsibilities. It’s only after Kiffin is called “disrespectful” that he completely loses his cool and goes off in the way you don’t like.
Did he lash out? Hell yeah. And I’m not going to blame him for it because I have no idea any of the details about their interactions before this weaponized recording.
You have no idea what happened before he hit the record button. Again, using your logic, you’re commenting when you don’t know shite about the situation.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:48 pm to TMRebel
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They even have a back and forth during this recording about how Kiffin understands that he may be having issues and he’s not trivializing them but he can’t ghost his responsibilities.
That’s the most generous interpretation of what Kiffin said I think is possible.
He literally didn’t acknowledge the issues at all, he just said if you would have come here when you were asked, and when the kid says he wasn’t ready Kiffin loses his cool, before he even makes the remark about disrespect
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