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re: Just how good is Hugh Freeze, really?

Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18496 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 3:46 pm to
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ol' Bucky Mcgee
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:04 pm to
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based on ole miss fans you'd think he went from 2-10 to a BCS equivalent bowl in three seasons

FIFY

I don't understand these threads. Basically the argument you are all making is OM can't doing anything special becuase they never have before. They are so behind us in this and that that there's no way they can compete with us year in and year out. You'll say that and then contradict yourself by saying, "what has freeze even done".
You can't point out how much we suck amd how insignificant we are and at the same time say, "what had freeze done" when he's beaten every team in the west.

We are happy becuase we have never recruited liked we have been. So we do not know our ceiling because we are doing things never been done here before. All we know is we are on a path that means more wins than we have experienced since the golden age of OM football. Will we win a championship? We don't know, but we'll be in the conversation year in and year out and that's not been the case in the modern era.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 4:07 pm
Posted by PanhandleDawg
Navarre Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2011
5442 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:41 pm to
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We won't know until he coaches at a legit program.


Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:26 pm to
Put a good competitive product on the field with Houston Nutt's upperclassmen. Considering his superior recruiting, it will be interesting to see what he does with his upperclassmen.
Posted by Snead4Heisman
The Library
Member since Apr 2014
122 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 7:18 am to
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You can compare the numbers all you want, but we're still talking about actual losses. He hasn't had a season wiht less than 4 losses, fact. 4 losses is not a good season, is it?


Which have decreased every year, while Gus's have more than doubled every year. Freeze said the goal was to make a bowl game in Year 3...we were primed for the college playoffs if the injuries didn't happen.

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It's been 3 years, not 1. And the thread was asking others how good is he. I never said he sucks and is the worst coach I've ever seen. If 3 years isn't long enough to evaluate a coach, when is? 5 years, 10? Or is it when they finally have a breakthrough season that enough time has passed?


Actually, it's quite fricking simple, dinglehead. Once the coach has a full team of his recruited/developed players. aka Houston Nutt. Looked like a great coach with Orgeron's players...his recruited players were questionable as D1 athletes.

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they're still vanderbilt football. they shouldn't beat real SEC teams, just like UK basketball shouldnt' ever lose to SC basketball.


This is your problem. This is how I know you're a dumb, bandwagon riding fan.Funny you say this, but probably thought Pearl was going to change AU's program.

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ok? And? Hell if it weren't for the last FSU drive we'd be national champs right?


Are you really that dense to realize that I was referencing our extreme lack of depth and that all these games we win if we had any D1 athletes past our 1-deep?

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yet real life shows that you actually did go 7-6.


Correct. Real life also shows AU had 5(6) losses this year.

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most of what you're saying is a hell of a lot of "we almost"s.


Again...are you that dense to catch my point? We almost did a lot of things, but our decimated team that Freeze took over had zero depth. It's as simple as that. We're building depth. Ole Miss will win the SEC before Shea Patterson goes to the NFL.

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I'll ask again, what is the standard accepted baseline for when we're allowed to evaluate coaches, when you say so? 3 years is ample time.

And in fact, based on what has already been said and the fact he hasn't finished better than 3rd in his division, I think a ranking bordering on 7/10 is pretty generous.



Let's bring this back to Pearl and the doormat program of AU basketball. If Pearl had y'all at #3 in the conference next year, what would you rank him?
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 8:43 am to
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I get what you are saying and all, but I just wanted to throw this out there:

Vanderbilt vs. Auburn: 21-20-1

Real SEC teams and all.



Bitch slapped by a Vanderbilt fan.

Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32219 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:25 am to
I am not sure I understand why people get so defensive when people evaluate their coaches.
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