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re: John Bond is supposed to leak some bigger news tonight
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:50 pm to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 2/22/11 at 10:50 pm to Aubie Spr96
There are so many people tagging others along and trying to get the first scoop on the big story that it's getting embarrassing.
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 11:28 pm to Ross
did he actually leak anything tonight?
Posted on 2/22/11 at 11:33 pm to TBama93k
Posted on 2/22/11 at 11:33 pm to Camp Randall
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I'm assuming anything Bond has to offer has already been presented to the NCAA, and therefore this won't change anything.
^This. Why do State fans continue to create John Bond threads? As if something earth shattering is really gonna happen.
Cam went to Auburn, not State. Get over it already.
Posted on 2/22/11 at 11:36 pm to MaroonNation
nothing really to see there
Posted on 2/23/11 at 1:15 am to MaroonNation
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they have heard Bond's tapes. UThug 150k Au 180k Also involved in bidding war were: Texas, Ohio State, Oregon, So Cal.
I wouldn't believe a damn word Cecil says in any of those tapes. The story I heard straight from the mouth of a MS ST employee in the know way back in December of 2009 before any of this happened was that Cecil was lying about having a cash offer from Tennessee (and possibly others) so as to leverage MS ST to match the offer. It is very likely that any school Cecil claims to have a cash offer from in any tapes is a made up fiction.
And in reality, I'm not convinced Auburn paid Newton either. I honestly think that when it comes to Cam Newton, Auburn was simply his only viable option still available because with all the other schools Cecil had been lying and trying to broker a deal (all of which were rejected). Auburn was the only school still wanting him that had clean hands because Auburn had never really been on his list up until a few weeks before he committed.
Simply put, none of the other schools could sign him even if they wanted because Cecil's brokering would have made it a violation to sign him. Auburn was all that was left because Auburn had never been approached for money by Cecil.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 1:18 am to Monticello
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I'm not convinced Auburn paid Newton either
Posted on 2/23/11 at 1:20 am to MaroonNation
Until I see some conclusive evidence, I'm in the boat that the Newton's received no money. I want to see evidence before I judge AU and the Newton family.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 1:29 am to MaroonNation
Maroon, my source (and trust me he was as close to the recruitment of Cam Newton as it can get) over a year ago has no direct knowledge of what happened once State stopped recruiting Newton shortly after the cash solicitation was made. Has Auburn paid Newton or others? Possibly, but I don't know.
All I am saying is that based upon what he told me, we should all take anything Cecil says on any tape with a grain of salt because he is very likely lying about anyone offering him money.
Auburn's biggest concern with Newton is if the NCAA finds out that Newton knew about his Dad (and he most certainly did).
Now the Louisiana kids are an entirely different story.
All I am saying is that based upon what he told me, we should all take anything Cecil says on any tape with a grain of salt because he is very likely lying about anyone offering him money.
Auburn's biggest concern with Newton is if the NCAA finds out that Newton knew about his Dad (and he most certainly did).
Now the Louisiana kids are an entirely different story.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 1:37 am to MaroonNation
The very moment Cam committed to AU, MSU were screaming at the top of their lungs that AU paid him.
It's now 13 months later and not one single thing has come out to show Cecil all of a sudden received 200k, absolutely nothing.
It's within reason to assume AU paid Cecil after he admitted to asking for money from MSU. But you'd think there would be something that would've came out by now
It's now 13 months later and not one single thing has come out to show Cecil all of a sudden received 200k, absolutely nothing.
It's within reason to assume AU paid Cecil after he admitted to asking for money from MSU. But you'd think there would be something that would've came out by now
Posted on 2/23/11 at 2:07 am to Monticello
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Monticello
wow, thanks for actually giving a very level headed argument. Never thought i'd see the day that this would ever happen on TD.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 7:04 am to GoCrazyAuburn
So where is the bigger news?
Is the big news that Urban Meyer went to the NY Times in October?
Is the big news that Urban Meyer went to the NY Times in October?
This post was edited on 2/23/11 at 7:08 am
Posted on 2/23/11 at 8:00 am to Monticello
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I'm not convinced Auburn paid Newton either. I honestly think that when it comes to Cam Newton, Auburn was simply his only viable option still available because with all the other schools Cecil had been lying and trying to broker a deal (all of which were rejected). Auburn was the only school still wanting him that had clean hands because Auburn had never really been on his list up until a few weeks before he committed.
basically what I've heard too.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 8:33 am to Monticello
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honestly think that when it comes to Cam Newton, Auburn was simply his only viable option still available because with all the other schools Cecil had been lying and trying to broker a deal (all of which were rejected). Auburn was the only school still wanting him that had clean hands because Auburn had never really been on his list up until a few weeks before he committed.
Wait. Is it common knowledge that working a pay-for-play to school A and B, but ultimately signing with school C (who was never part of a deal) NOT an NCAA violation? And by common knowledge, I mean prior to the NCAA making the Newton ruling in November.
It seemed to me that everyone and their brother thought a solicitation of any kind to any school was a violation.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 8:57 am to CFBFAN1121
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It's now 13 months later and not one single thing has come out to show Cecil all of a sudden received 200k, absolutely nothing
I didn't realize you were working with the ncaa. Tell me more.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:02 am to Tds & Beer
no John Bond info...I am shocked. no really I am.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:05 am to saltybulldog
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Wait. Is it common knowledge that working a pay-for-play to school A and B, but ultimately signing with school C (who was never part of a deal) NOT an NCAA violation? And by common knowledge, I mean prior to the NCAA making the Newton ruling in November.
It seemed to me that everyone and their brother thought a solicitation of any kind to any school was a violation.
What Cecil did was low-down no doubt. But, the real question the NCAA has to satisfy themselves with, is did Cam have knowledge of his father's dealings.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:09 am to saltybulldog
Wait. Is it common knowledge that working a pay-for-play to school A and B, but ultimately signing with school C (who was never part of a deal) NOT an NCAA violation? And by common knowledge, I mean prior to the NCAA making the Newton ruling in November.
Who is school B ?. All anyone has heard is that MSU was solicited, but nobody else so far. After 13 months something would have surfaced.
Who is school B ?. All anyone has heard is that MSU was solicited, but nobody else so far. After 13 months something would have surfaced.
Posted on 2/23/11 at 9:12 am to RT1941
I understand the dilemma at this point.
However, when the shite started stirring last fall. Most everyone believed the rules to state that solicitation by anyone associated with the athlete was a straight violation. The NCAA bent their own rule with this "Cam not having knowledge of the solicitation BS"
It is loop hole the size of the eye of a needle.
However, when the shite started stirring last fall. Most everyone believed the rules to state that solicitation by anyone associated with the athlete was a straight violation. The NCAA bent their own rule with this "Cam not having knowledge of the solicitation BS"
It is loop hole the size of the eye of a needle.
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