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re: Joel Klatt’s Top 10 Teams Since 2000 Plus Hypothetical Four Team Playoff

Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:54 am to
Posted by GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Member since Dec 2014
1635 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:54 am to
Klatt riding 2019 LSU way too high

Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12953 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:00 am to
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the same LSU team that was a dropped easy touchdown away from losing to what turned out to be a mediocre Texas team?



That same Miami team that needed a fluke turnover to beat a shitty, unranked Boston College…
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12953 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:01 am to
3rd and 17
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
2758 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:06 am to
FOX FOX FOX
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:33 am to
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fricking brutal schedule Auburn played.


They beat #5 LSU, #10 Tennessee, #8 Georgia, #15 Tennessee,
and #9 Virginia Tech.

That's a pretty decent schedule.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7143 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:44 am to
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I like to clown the weirdo always drunk LSU folks as much as the next guy. But I don’t know how a team led by Burrow, Chase, and Jefferson isn’t in the top 2.



as another poster said in another thread about the best teams, the LSU defense was in the lower half of its own conference
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2615 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:50 am to
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USC played Virginia Tech that year. They trailed at halftime, led by 1 score in the 4th quarter, and ultimately pulled away to win 24-13.


Not sure why this is the third time recently I've seen someone try to use 04 Auburn struggling with VT as some evidence USC would kill them when the difference in USC-VT and Auburn-VT was 8 points.


Exactly. These morons with agendas seem to forget the way it played out. AU was disappointed to be in this game and still was up 16-0. They gave up a garbage touchdown late to make it look closer.

Not sure why some bama fans are pained to admit that the AU 2004 team was the best in the land that year. I have no problem admitting that multiple UA teams have been the best in certain years.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33943 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:53 am to
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I like to clown the weirdo always drunk LSU folks as much as the next guy. But I don’t know how a team led by Burrow, Chase, and Jefferson isn’t in the top 2.


Furthermore, he said 2001 Miami will beat 2019 LSU by shutting down their offense. No college team is shutting down Burrow, Chase, and Jefferson. Any team that beats them will have to do it by out-scoring them. 2001 Miami really isn't the team to do that. They put up points but did that on the backs of constantly getting short fields due to their defense creating turnovers and scoring non-offensive touchdowns. That just wouldn't happen against 2019 LSU. A team like 2005 Texas would have been much better equipped to beat them.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19238 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:54 am to
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USC played Virginia Tech that year. They trailed at halftime, led by 1 score in the 4th quarter, and ultimately pulled away to win 24-13.

VaTech finished #10 in the country. UGA finished 7th. UTk finished in the top 15 (Auburn beat them twice). And LSU (defending champs) finished 16th.

I don't want to hear shite about 2004 AU having a weak schedule. The bowl game was classic Tubershell. Went up by 7-10 points and leaned on an elite defense. All 13 of Tech's points came in the 4th qtr andfter AU had controlled the entire game.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 7:55 am
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3766 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:54 am to
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01, 04 and 05 would lose easily to 18, 19, 20, 21 or 22. Especially if we’re playing with today’s ruleset


Opposite thought could be used to wonder if the early 2000’s teams would exert dominance in the running game and shorten the game by today’s rules. Early 2000 run offenses vs today’s lighter weight (relatively speaking) defenses would create a weekly mismatch that countered the pass-first offenses of today.

Running the ball with today’s rules shortens the game and makes the passing game perform under narrower room for errors. Especially with fewer series opportunities.

I could imagine many of the games being similar to Bama-Texas in the NC. Bama was able to run effectively, but Texas gave them a fight with its passing game (Texas then being constructed similar to today’s teams) even with their backup QB.



Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6516 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:02 am to
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I don't want to hear shite about 2004 AU having a weak schedule


Auburns beat 4 teams in the regular season that finished ranked in the top 16.

The shitty Oklahoma team that went to the championship and got curbstomped by USC beat 2 Top 18 teams.

Auburn got royally screwed.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8636 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:03 am to
Shiny. No thanks.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8636 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:06 am to
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the same LSU team that was a dropped easy touchdown away from losing to what turned out to be a mediocre Texas team? That LSU team was loaded on offense but didn't have the Defense to take on most of Klatt's list.

The team was perfectly balanced. When it didn't stop texas in the second half, the offense whatever it needed to at will. When auburn's defensive line slowed our pass attack, the defense played like 2011 lsu defense. By the end of season, both units were un. Flipping. Stopable.

It was balanced, as all things should be. It was the greatest team of all time.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 8:07 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19238 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:07 am to
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Auburns beat 4 teams in the regular season that finished ranked in the top 16.

5 if you count Tennessee being #10 for the first game and #15 for the SECCG.

I realize you said where they finished, but anyone saying that was an easy schedule either doesn't remember that season or is trolling.

Auburn definitely should have been in over Oklahoma. May not have won, but they weren't gonna get blown out 55-19. That's for certain. That 04 defense was elite. I believe the voters punished Auburn by losing the 03 opener to USC 23-0. I'll forever believe that's the only reason Auburn didn't play in the championship game.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 8:08 am
Posted by TiggerWoods
Auburn
Member since Nov 2010
3977 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:14 am to
What were the records from the teams they played in the East? I noticed you happened to leave that out you crimson dildo.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14415 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:54 am to
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cause the defense was shite. It's not that hard

Does that matter if LSU won the SECCG and both playoff games by an average of 26 points? That's against the #2, #4 and #7 teams.

2001 Miami won it's only Top 10 match-up by 23.

2005 Texas played 2 Top 10 games and won by 3 points each

2004 USC played 3 unranked teams where they won by an average of 5 points. They did blow out OU in their bowl.
Posted by EssexTiger
Maryland
Member since Apr 2020
141 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:33 am to
If I recall correctly, OU and USC went wire to wire ranked 1 & 2 over the course of the 2004 season, both undefeated, and AU just could never displace either in the AP rankings until USC blew out OU at year end. AU would finish #2 in AP final poll and USC would eventually have its Reggie Bush problems and controversial #1 ranking stripped in some polls.
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