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re: JFF will be knocked out by Game ____ of the Season.....
Posted on 4/23/13 at 3:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 4/23/13 at 3:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
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He's never beaten Kevin Sumlin
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Sorry had to laugh at that.
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 3:57 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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lol ok. How exactly did Bret Bielema luck into a superstar?
Well, I could bring up Russell Wilson but that wasnt really the point. The point is that his record against good teams at Wisconsin was pretty abysmal but Arkansas fans just assume he will translate to the SEC. At least Sumlin has had success IN the SEC. There just arent alot of Indianas, Purdues, Illinois, Minnesotas and Northwesterns in the SEC.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 3:58 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Northwesterns in the SEC.
Good thing for State.
ZING BITCH
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:03 pm to RebFeBrees
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Well, I could bring up Russell Wilson but that wasnt really the point
He was a transfer, but Bielema and staff brought him in. JFF was already on the roster when Sumlin got to A&M. Same way Keenum was already on the roster when he got to Houston.
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The point is that his record against good teams at Wisconsin was pretty abysmal but Arkansas fans just assume he will translate to the SEC.
Wait...you mean the majority of his losses were to the better teams in the league. No wai! That stat is pretty misleading too.
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At least Sumlin has had success IN the SEC.
meh. John L wins at least 7 with JFF. Gene Chizik won 14 with Cam Newton (and A&M fans say JFF is better all the time).
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There just arent alot of Indianas, Purdues, Illinois, Minnesotas and Northwesterns in the SEC.
No, but there are Vanderbilts, Kentuckys, Missouris, Mississippi States, Ole Miss, and Texas A&Ms.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:09 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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No, but there are Vanderbilts, Kentuckys, Missouris, Mississippi States, Ole Miss, and Texas A&Ms.
Jesus Christ
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:16 pm to BuccWildBammer
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It worked for Bama with Barrett Jones though but Joeckel is the 1st overall pick Thursday so he's pretty good and will be tough to replace
That Jones guy I heard was pretty good...until I watched Nealy destroy him.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:18 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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He was a transfer, but Bielema and staff brought him in. JFF was already on the roster when Sumlin got to A&M. Same way Keenum was already on the roster when he got to Houston.
Russell Wilson was a proven commodity, a certifiable stud, before Bielema ever touched him. Manziel had never taken a college snap and Keenum had only started six very "meh" games when Sumlin got ahold of them. If you're going to take the inheritence route, just know it doesnt play in your favor. One could just as easily argue Sumlin made those QBs.
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Wait...you mean the majority of his losses were to the better teams in the league. No wai! That stat is pretty misleading too.
59 of his 68 wins at Wisconsin were against unranked teams (with less than 20 coming against FBS teams that finished with winning records) or FCS programs. He was 9-17 against ranked teams, that's only 35%.
Meanwhile, Kevin Sumlin is 8-2 against ranked teams.
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No, but there are Vanderbilts, Kentuckys, Missouris, Mississippi States, Ole Miss, and Texas A&Ms.
Try harder.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:29 pm to Arkansasrazorback
John L. Smith would have Taylor Bertolet at QB and Johnny Manziel at kicker
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Russell Wilson was a proven commodity, a certifiable stud, before Bielema ever touched him.
Yes. Bielema also won with QBs like Scott Tolzien. Wisconsin had some QB issues this year and still won 7 regular season games. Sumlin's teams have QB issues and they watch bowl season on tv.
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Manziel had never taken a college snap and Keenum had only started six very "meh" games when Sumlin got ahold of them. If you're going to take the inheritence route, just know it doesnt play in your favor.
lol yea it does. If Manziel sucked so bad before he met Sumlin, then why were schools like Oregon interested in him? Why were certain high school coaches speaking so highly of him?
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One could just as easily argue Sumlin made those QBs.
I guess you could. If you're delusional.
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59 of his 68 wins at Wisconsin were against unranked teams (with less than 20 coming against FBS teams that finished with winning records) or FCS programs. He was 9-17 against ranked teams, that's only 35%.
3 conference titles. Still a misleading stat.
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Meanwhile, Kevin Sumlin is 8-2 against ranked teams.
Cool. 3 fewer conference titles. In Conference-USA. If we're going by recruiting rankings (and I hate doing that) Houston was one of the more talented teams in that league, but they were never its champion Sumlin's tenure. Meanwhile, Wisconsin was one of the least talented teams in the Big 10 and represented the league in the Rose Bowl 3 times.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
If JFF was a Spartan in the movie 300, the movie would just be called "one"
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:37 pm to Arkansasrazorback
Whatever. If you're going to say I dont have a point, then dismiss the stats that show I do, there's no point in discussing this. Nothing is going to change your mind. 
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:41 pm to Roger Klarvin
Check most good coaches' (not the greats like Saban or Meyer) records against the better teams and you will see much of the same. I think Spurrier has a losing record against ranked teams at USC. Dispute 3 conference titles other than saying that 2012 was by default. Two is still a bigger number than zero.
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:50 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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Check most good coaches' (not the greats like Saban or Meyer) records against the better teams and you will see much of the same.
Two things:
1 - This means that Sumlin does have the record of a great coach, no? Rhetorical, he actually has the highest win percentage against ranked teams among coaches with at least ten opportunities.
2 - This means Bielema is not great, no? Again, rhetorical. His 35% going into this season ranks him eigth in the conference, behind Sumlin, Saban, Miles, Richt, Spurrier, Muschamp and Pinkel (yeah, Pinkel).
He racked up wins against bad teams.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:50 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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John L. Smith would have Taylor Bertolet at QB and Johnny Manziel at kicker
Yea, it's hard for me to argue against John L being a complete retard.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 4:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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He racked up wins against bad teams.
C-USA staaaaaaccckkkked. Gene Chizik beat a shitload of ranked teams in 2010, he must be the bestest coach evar. Sumlin has to prove himself w/o Manziel, and win with a QB he develops. I've never heard of a record against ranked teams ring. However, I have heard of conference championship rings.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 5:01 pm to troywew
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If JFF was a Spartan in the movie 300, the movie would just be called "one"
Posted on 4/23/13 at 5:03 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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But you're fricking delusional if you think you beat us this year. JFF 2.0 bitch
one good year out of hundreds and A&M fans think they are the shite
Posted on 4/23/13 at 5:29 pm to CP3LSU25
And Klarvin, yt he UF game is just 1 example, their are others, like the 21 - 0 victory over LSU are you forgetting?
Sumlin can take all the credit he wants for ONE victory over Saban.....ONE
His record will be tied 1 - 1 after 9/14
The record bears it out these revenge games are usually not pretty for Bama's opponents
Posted on 4/23/13 at 5:33 pm to BuccWildBammer
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Joeckel will be the #1 overall pick on Thurs so A&M has a new guy at LT so he will be tested
But is hereally new when he's an All-American RT?
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