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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:43 am to
Posted by Leonides
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:43 am to
I'm not hating on Hurts. The guy is a phenomenal athlete, leader and athlete. But I think, correctly, that to beat Bama right now you have to force Hurts to be a pocket passer.

I agree he will get better as he's only a freshman. But the question, which maybe mooted by Bama's defense, is can Hurts beat you with his arm?
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15342 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:45 am to
Most of that i would completely agree with.

quote:

Hurts completes some longer throws because receivers are so open. Hurt left a lot of yards off the stat sheet against Rocky Top because he couldn't hit receivers in stride.



I think technically this is correct but i would argue that is the coaching staff making him be absolutely sure we have wide open WRs before throwing the ball. He doesnt really ever throw a WR open or throw it ahead of time. Rather he could if he was allowed to we just dont know at this point. He is a true freshman so he gets a lot of lead way. He isnt asked to win games with his arm, at least not yet. He does have many, many other great attributes that are way beyond his age. Will be awesome to see him grow over the years.
Posted by Leonides
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:16 am to
I appreciate all the Bama fans' analysis. That being said, and my point maybe dissolved after the LSU v Ole Miss game, but I think LSU's defense is the best Bama will face in terms of matchups.

I know LSU has lost twice (I was at Lambeau), but the LSU defense has not been the reason LSU has lost. Contrary to some LSU fans, I think Dave Aranda is the best DC LSU has had since Saban was coach. LSU has only given up 5-6 TDs. You can argue competition but if you understand the game you see that Aranda is quietly building a great defense with great athletes. If LSU beats Ole Miss and plays great defense, which I think will occur, then I think Nick and Lane will be up late at night before the game in BR.

Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15342 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:29 am to
quote:

I think LSU's defense is the best Bama will face in terms of matchups.


Yes it could be. If your Oline and QB show up im sure it will be a very tough game.
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 1:49 am to
Hurts' biggest weaweakness in my opinion is throwing the ball on the run. If he's forced out of the pocket and tries to accurately throw to a down field receiver, he misses most of those throws. He will get better at that though I'm sure.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 2:56 am to
They are letting Hurts read just one half of the field and then he takes off if he doesn't see what he wants.
Posted by Leonides
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 3:12 am to
LSU is going to force Hurts to pass from the pocket.

All the talk of A&M aside, LSU is the best defense in the SEC besides Bama. Hurts will have to pass from the pocket to get through LSU.
Posted by Leonides
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 3:42 am to
LSU's defense is the defense Hurts and Bama must defeat to win the NC.

I know every SEC fan weighs in, but I believe LSU is Bama's biggest obstacle from a standpoint of talent. Coaching, at this point, remains to be seen.
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 3:52 am to
quote:

You don't even play Alabama this week.


They fear what's coming.
Posted by Leonides
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 3:58 am to
Bama fears playing LSU without Miles. Yes?
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:08 am to
quote:

Bama fears playing LSU without Miles. Yes?


That's what you got? Bet you could find a tax-payer provided reading comprehension class that will help you.
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25499 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:21 am to
quote:

Melt bitch



You're very odd.
Posted by Leonides
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:39 am to
The point is that Bama and the rest of the SEC do not want to play LSU.

Now that LSU has a QB that can manage the offense, LF is returning and the Ragin Aisian is running the defense, Bama and the rest of the SEC, as evidenced by Florida, are concerned.
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25499 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:44 am to
quote:

The point is that Bama and the rest of the SEC do not want to play LSU.



Are you high? You think Bama fears any team? Nobody is scared of LSU. Most likely, LSU loses 3 of the rest of their games and possibly 4.

I'm glad those impressive wins over Missouri and Southern Miss have you guys all full of piss and vinegar, though. Will make the melt even more enjoyable.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15950 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:48 am to
He's an elite athlete who is very confident like Nick Marshall.

JH has time to further develop his passing skills.

I think CNS has evolved his thinking regarding the QB position because of Deshaun Watson, Cam, JFF, and NM. Mobility at QB can turn losses into gains and gains into TDs.

CNS won big time with traditional guys, but now CNS is dominating with a dual threat.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 5:21 am
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:50 am to
I would say the most impressive thing I saw from Hurts against Tennessee was him calmly sticking with the play when the clock was down to 3 seconds and the ref stepped in to hold it up resulting in a huge play. He had the right play, he knew it and stayed with it. 99% of everyone else would have called a timeout there.
Posted by Leonides
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1270 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:57 am to
We will see in Tiger Stadium. That will be Hurts true baptism by fire.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:58 am to
What you said.

He's got some work to do.He made a couple of really good throws last week.But he also sails a few way high.

But Kiffin has put him in position to complete a good percentage.

Definitely a work in progress.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:19 am to
He doesn't need to be a great passer with Bama's run game. He reminds me a lot of Nick Marshall. Nick, however, had one helluva deep ball. He just couldn't hit the underneath stuff.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21698 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 6:44 am to
quote:

Hurts is extremely cool under pressure and a great athlete, but my impression is that Hurts benefits from Kiffin's schemes and play calling which allow for easy completions. Hurts looks inaccurate when throwing the ball downfield on routes 15 yards plus. Hurts completes some longer throws because receivers are so open. Hurt left a lot of yards off the stat sheet against Rocky Top because he couldn't hit receivers in stride.


That's him in a nutshell. I'm hoping he improves his passing, but who knows?
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