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re: Ivan Maisel Tells It Like It Is Re: Up-tempo Offenses
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:22 pm to HailToTheChiz
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:22 pm to HailToTheChiz
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so he also forgot 2010?
Auburn wasn't exactly up tempo that year.
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:24 pm to droliver
quote:Except it's not. Our formations include a TE and a FB/HB a majority of the time
Malzhan's system is still a finesse spread though the way they run it in terms of formations and personnel
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:24 pm to BamaDude06
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Auburn was 54th in plays per game in 2010. They aren't as "hurry up" as you think. Oregon was 7th in plays per game that year
exactly.
Oregon averaged 78.3 plays per game. Auburn averaged 68.5 plays per game
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:26 pm to Alahunter
So are we a gimmicky hurry up spread or not? Make up your mind guys 
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:27 pm to Mizz-SEC
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ou can run a high tempo, spread offense - but you must, MUST have the ability to pound a sustaining running game when needed. If you rely on a short passing game to be your defacto running game, you're screwed. That change (short passing run game v. an actual running game) is big reason behind Mizzou's 2013 success.
Good point. There is no substitute for handing the ball off. When a good and physical defense mans up and presses they can take away those short and quick throws. You have to be able to hand the ball off and control clock when necessary or it will come back to bite you in the arse.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:28 pm to Alahunter
To be fair we had games where we just ran and milked the clock at the end. Kentucky, MSU and LSU were great examples. Cam would run the ball, get tackled and simply lay there to milk the clock. We could have scored again vs LSU but we were just getting 3 yards at a time and took a few knees.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:30 pm to Marines4Auburn
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To be fair we had games where we just ran and milked the clock at the end
You also came from behind in 7 or 8 games. Yall lined up fairly quick, but still took about 20 seconds on the play clock most of the time that season. Not really up tempo. This year, is definitely up tempo compared to 2010.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:31 pm to Marines4Auburn
That's what makes AU different from those teams. You could control the tempo and keep drives going while taking time off of the clock. Regardless of the tempo you played it was still a team with a physical running game.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:32 pm to Alahunter
Fair assessment, It varied from game to game. I just remember Malzahn having a fit on the sideline trying to get people going after a play ended.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:39 pm to Marines4Auburn
I'd compare Auburn's running scheme to how the Denver Broncos ran last decade. They had a very novel zone blocking scheme with smaller, quicker OL that was just brutally effective for a few years. They were literally just plugging a different RB in every year and the guy had 1100+ yrds/season. It was a lot different then the Steelers who lined up and just pushed you off the ball.
Again, Auburn and Alabama's M.O. is just different when you watch what they do and how they do it closely. Watching Malzhan at work is like watching Bobby Petrino. You can see they are just brilliant at the variety and creativity that they bring to the offensive side of the ball,
Again, Auburn and Alabama's M.O. is just different when you watch what they do and how they do it closely. Watching Malzhan at work is like watching Bobby Petrino. You can see they are just brilliant at the variety and creativity that they bring to the offensive side of the ball,
Posted on 11/24/13 at 4:46 pm to Alahunter
2010 wasn't really a hurry up, they would hurry to the line but then prairie dog looking over at the sidelines for the next play.
It was just a no huddle offense at times, not a hurry up.
It was just a no huddle offense at times, not a hurry up.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:08 pm to Stonehog
Thank you! Idiots confuse the fact that there is a huge difference. The no huddle gives the defense substitution/matchup problems. The hurry up aspect, while creating the same substitution problems, also puts pressure on the defensive signal caller to recognize the formation and call the appropiate defense quickly. You'll see a lot of busted coverage and gap mistakes on defenses trying to keep up.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:18 pm to Chronic
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The performance of Baylor and Oregon on Saturday made the up-tempo spread offense look as faddish as the latest Free People catalog.
So spread teams losing to offenses run by Mike Gundy and Rich Rod prove the spread is a fad?
This is ESPN logic at its finest.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:21 pm to droliver
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Malzhan's system is still a finesse spread
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:23 pm to MrAUTigers
MrAUTigers, I am lovin that sig image!
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:30 pm to AUin02
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So spread teams losing to offenses run by Mike Gundy and Rich Rod prove the spread is a fad?
Spread does not equal up-tempo offense. Urban Meyer runs a spread offense and did so with Tebow. Do you think that was a hurry-up no huddle?
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This is ESPN logic at its finest.
Well you're the one who apparently can't even read.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:33 pm to AUin02
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So spread teams losing to offenses run by Mike Gundy and Rich Rod prove the spread is a fad?
Why don't you check the score of those games.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:55 pm to bamafan1001
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Auburn HUNH with Cam Newton was a power run attack. Much different than Oregon and Baylor
Thank you. I have to lol'd when people try to claim 2010 Auburn with Cam was HUNH. People completely forget about Dyer that season ... and Cam was RB #2 in that offense with many a draw and wing-it called for Cam.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 5:56 pm to AUin02
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So spread teams losing to offenses run by Mike Gundy and Rich Rod prove the spread is a fad?
Posted on 11/24/13 at 6:00 pm to LanierSpots
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True. Its also funny when some of you think we run trick plays. I think we have run one trick play all year. It was on a two point conversion
it's like danielson said in uga-au game: gus runs the same basic handful of plays he ran as a hs coach. nothing gimmicky about that. his teams are physical at the point of attack and execute very well. nothing gimmicky about that either.
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