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re: It's time to ask: What in the world happened to Trent Richardson
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:37 am to TheDrunkenTigah
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:37 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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and before anyone starts whining, I think Jamarcus was juicing in college too.
sure didn't show unless he was juicing and not really working out. jamarcus, while not as fat as he ggot later on, was overweight in college
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:43 am to Kcoyote
I thought he was an absolute beast in college. I never understood how he didn't pan out in the NFL. I thought he was much better than Eddie Lacy or Mark Ingram. If anyone was a product of the Alabama scheme and offensive line, I thought it was the aforementioned backs. I always viewed Trent as unbelievable talent.
Honestly, I think he still has it. I always rooted for him and I hope he can find some way to get back on a team in a way he can be utilized.
Honestly, I think he still has it. I always rooted for him and I hope he can find some way to get back on a team in a way he can be utilized.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:46 am to Zchlsu
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Also, I don't see anything from that video that screams amazing vision.
This. He was coached to run behind zone blocking and plant his foot when it opened up. It opened up ALOT in that video.
People don't know what they're looking at. He never had great vision and that was masked in college because of the OL. It was exposed in the NFL.
I always thought he sought too much contact in college and never had that subtle evasiveness that you absolutely HAVE to have in the NFL to have any sort of career.
He certainly got the job done for Bama though. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:56 am to elposter
Perhaps that was an exageration. Let me rush and get the exact number nancy.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:03 am to PharmacistReb
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I thought he was an absolute beast in college. I never understood how he didn't pan out in the NFL. I thought he was much better than Eddie Lacy or Mark Ingram. If anyone was a product of the Alabama scheme and offensive line, I thought it was the aforementioned backs. I always viewed Trent as unbelievable talent.
Honestly, I think he still has it. I always rooted for him and I hope he can find some way to get back on a team in a way he can be utilized.
i think the problem with Richardson is that he had such superior physical tools, he never had to develop his vision in college. Lacy does not have near the speed of the other two backs so he had to develop vision as a big back while in college, and with his size, it really benefited him in the NFL. Ingram came to Alabama when Saban was still building the program. He also, at the start of his career, had to develop as a player. Richardson didn't become the feature back until Alabama had become a powerhouse with the biggest and best line in football. And his physical tools were so good that he was able to get by on raw athleticism. I believe that killed his development for the NFL.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:08 am to lsufball19
OK there were 17 first rounders and 11 2nd or 3 Rd picks, still a ton of players
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:18 am to Kcoyote
The honey codger told him this league isn't big enough for the both of them. It's honey codger's world, the rest just occupy space.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:22 am to Kcoyote
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:23 am to Taurus 357
the number of college attempts Richardson had in college wasn't all that high
hell neither is Derrick Henry's and this is the first year in a long time that we've leaned so heavily on one RB
I honestly can't tell you what went wrong with Trent
hell neither is Derrick Henry's and this is the first year in a long time that we've leaned so heavily on one RB
I honestly can't tell you what went wrong with Trent
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:24 am to Kcoyote
Same thing that happens to most former Cleveland Browns' players. They thought they could get out of Cleveland and be big heroes in another community. Little do they know that they are damaged beyond repair once the city by the lake takes a hold of them. Manziel will find out the same way, when he goes to Dallas in the offseason. Mike Pettine, too. He will never be a HC in the league again. That place is like a vampire. Sucks the life out of all decent football players and coaches.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:26 am to Kcoyote
I think I saw him selling suits at T-Town Menswear. Heckuva salesman!
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:35 am to lsufball19
Ingram and Richardson were very similar players the first year in the NFL. They both would run up the backs of the oline, they didn't have the patience to find the hole. At bama it didn't matter because more often than not the hole was where it was supposed to be. In the NFL thats not the case.
Ingram has improved greatly in this aspect and has become a very good rb. Richardson didn't or just didn't care to.
Ingram has improved greatly in this aspect and has become a very good rb. Richardson didn't or just didn't care to.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:40 am to Rhino5
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Rhino5
It's time to ask: What in the world happened to Trent Richardson
I thought there was a strong belief he used steroids at Alabama. He missed an NFL combine to have his knee "scoped" which is nothing and appears more to dodge drug testing. This was during McElwain era. Just google "Trent Richardson steroids" and several links come up.
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LOL at the barner posing as a Sparty fan. You post shite like this, written by a clown like this...
"Colin Gawel plays in the band Watershed. You can read all about him in the acclaimed memoir "Hitless Wonder" by Joe Oestreich. He also writes for and manages the website Pencilstorm in between serving customers at Colin's Coffee, so if the writing could be a little better, please get off his arse. Please visit our contributors page to learn more."
I get the fact that you're probably only about 20 years old, so you probably hadn't yet popped your first woody when Trent Richardson was winning high school weighlifting championships at Escambia HS in Pensacola.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:43 am to presidenthog
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just had an amazing O line.
How does the amazing OL account for the fact that, in his senior year, almost half of his yards were after contact?
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:46 am to BamaGradinTn
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How does the amazing OL account for the fact that, in his senior year, almost half of his yards were after contact?
how much of that contact was initiated behind the LOS? trent richardson always fell forward in college. he was hard to bring down. he averaged 2.8 yards after contact his junior year. that doesn't refute that he benefited greatly from a great OL. and 2.8 yards after contact does not mean half his yards were after contact just because he averaged 5.9 YPC. if he runs through a hole and isn't touched until he's 15 yards past the LOS, drags the defender another 3 yards, were half of his yards after contact?
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:17 am to BamaGradinTn
Lmfao...I don't pay attention to barners conspiracy posts. I thought even in college TR was a little overrated, he never had elite speed, or above average vision. I thought his best asset was his feet, and he stayed square and could shed tacklers. His technique got sloppy to say the least.
As far as this steroid talk, I can tell you just about every college program pushes the envelope. I myself played college football at Alabama AM in early/mid 2000s l, I got cousins that did and currently play for Alabama and is currently a Walk on at Auburn and in the NFL. My family it's mostly military or play ball somewhere type. It's so many different recovery PEDs, the NCAA nor NFL can keep up with them. I myself never took PEDs knowingly, but it will always be people looking for an edge. People don't want to go down that Rabbit Hole and look closer.
As far as this steroid talk, I can tell you just about every college program pushes the envelope. I myself played college football at Alabama AM in early/mid 2000s l, I got cousins that did and currently play for Alabama and is currently a Walk on at Auburn and in the NFL. My family it's mostly military or play ball somewhere type. It's so many different recovery PEDs, the NCAA nor NFL can keep up with them. I myself never took PEDs knowingly, but it will always be people looking for an edge. People don't want to go down that Rabbit Hole and look closer.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:04 pm to Wallacewade04
What happens is that some of these backs have deficiencies that are covered up in college because they are literally men among boys and Richardson fit that description.
It could be the vision thing or it could be the running style. In college he was able to batter defenses. In the NFL you have more people that are at the elite level . Holes are only there for a fraction of what they would be in college. Also, I remember some scouts saying pre draft that some of Richardson's footwork was suspect as well
It could be the vision thing or it could be the running style. In college he was able to batter defenses. In the NFL you have more people that are at the elite level . Holes are only there for a fraction of what they would be in college. Also, I remember some scouts saying pre draft that some of Richardson's footwork was suspect as well
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:22 pm to KiwiHead
He was a very good college back running behind the best O line in the game at that time. How they do in the NFL is a projection, sometimes right, sometimes wrong. Didnt help him to start off in Cleveland either.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:39 pm to elposter
Plaxico Burress is my favorite 1st round, ex-Saban player.
Posted on 12/10/15 at 1:46 pm to lsufball19
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and 2.8 yards after contact does not mean half his yards were after contact just because he averaged 5.9 YPC.
No, 787/1583=49.7% means half his yards were after contact.
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. if he runs through a hole and isn't touched until he's 15 yards past the LOS, drags the defender another 3 yards, were half of his yards after contact?
Are you really asking us if 3 is 50% of 18? Product of Louisiana public schools.
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