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re: It's no debate. We need an 8 team playoff.

Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:57 am to
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 4:57 am to
Well it's not nonsense. It's logically what will happen. Last year with 4 teams brought in more money than the BCS ever did. The only people who don't want it are the ones who for some reason believe a BCS or 4 playoff team, will exclude the majority of the 128, and only allow the "elite" programs to play for the title, i.e. TCU/ Baylor last year. Is there anyone who doesn't believe that either of those teams wouldn't have had success in the play-offs. If it had been , OU, UT, KSU , tOSU would not have jumped them. And tOSU ended up winning.
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1415 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 5:11 am to
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6 team playoff, P5 conferences all required to have a championship game which includes an automatic bid. Playoff committee seeds them and chooses an at large 6th team (so the non p5 teams can still technically get a chance). Top 2 seeds get a bye.




8 is too many.
Posted by Emanonion
Member since Dec 2012
1762 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 5:23 am to
I don't like the idea of an automatic bid for the P5. Not all that long ago Wisconsin won the B1G with a record of 8-5, no way do they deserve to be in the playoffs. Seems like an ACC team won their conference with 3 losses not all that long ago as well. Those teams don't deserve anything.

If they want to move it to 6 or 8 or whatever I'm ok with that, but no automatic bids.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 5:25 am to
I don't understand why 2 teams need bye. Why?

But also, regarding expanding at all, will this happen soon and not in 8 years ?

It is possible, very possible that ...

tOSU/MSU goes undefeated. So they are in
OU/BU/TCU one of these goes undefeated. So they are in
UCLA/O goes undefeated. IN!
ND/CU might go undefeated and would be in.

LSU/OM/UGA/TEXAM/UT/UA will probably all have a loss somewhere.
And then MELT like no one has ever seen...

And while there is a good chance this doesn't happen , it ain't that far out. The SEC champ could miss the playoffs this year.

Expansion is needed, It absolutely does not water it down. I don't think there should be 16 or 10 or 12 or anymore than 8. But there are no reasons a team needs a bye. Only insecure teams need that!
Posted by Rescue22
South Carolina
Member since Jul 2015
4118 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 5:40 am to
I think it'd be more enjoyable to watch if we had 10 teams in a playoff, but looking at it realistically, it'd make more sense with six teams.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71576 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 5:57 am to
I don't agree. The TCU/Baylor argument was negated by the end of the year. It could have gone the other way, but it didn't. The only valid argument was between FSU and TCU, and you aren't leaving the undefeated national champs out no matter how bad they looked.
Posted by WiscyTiger
Bear Lake, WI
Member since Nov 2008
1415 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:01 am to
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I don't understand why 2 teams need bye. Why?


I would be ok with no bye, but critics of expanding to more than 4 will say that there would be too many games and it would extend the season too far. #1 and #2 having a bye would reduce games and make the regular season count a little more.

6 is good because it doesn't leave any P5 champ out (if deserving), and it leaves room for a non-P5 wild card (if deserving). 8 is too many.
Posted by crescentcity
Member since Feb 2015
1311 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:13 am to
Go back to old system.

College football is the best sport in the world. By far. his will turn it into college basketall, or worse, professional basketball.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2738 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:24 am to
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It's no debate. We need an 8 team playoff. by GeauxTigerNation


The original BCS started to get it close to right.

The final 4 BCS Championship series has got it really close to correct. Whey expand this only extends the season 16 games for the teams that reach the finals and have a conference championship with a 12 game schedule.

These kids do go to school the season has to end before spring semester.

Going back to a 10 game schedule will cost too much revenue for the rest of the teams only because we want to be politically correct and not leave out a team that may have won?

Respect your opinion but the season is long now and has gotten longer
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29678 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:31 am to
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6 is enough. Top 2 get a bye. Too many opportunities for bullshite rematches with 8 and ruins the hype of the cfb regular season.


\Because Auburn won't be excited about winning the iron bowl or beating LSU - right?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29678 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:37 am to
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Find one year in the BCS era where the number 5-8 ranked teams had a claim to play for the national title that was as legitimate as teams 1-3.


ouch \, that is such a hard question

I'll take LAST YEAR for $1000 Alex!

Baylor and TCU for sure

There is 6 that make sense easily

Then MS State & Mich State

At the time of selection, those schools did make sense - MI State proved it in their bowl and MS State did not; but both made sense for an 8 team playoff at the time of selection
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:37 am to
Top three, and four play it off for the fourth spot. Best and final offer.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71576 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:44 am to
BCS era =/= LAST YEAR

Also, the end of the year showed they got it right. There has to be a break somewhere, and top four makes the most sense. There is more separation with the rest of the country in the top four than with 5-8. Anything short of a 128 playoff will always leave a team or two on the bubble. Deal with it.

*eta
I'd support a six team playoff with top two getting a bye, or five teams with 4-5 playing in. I still think you'll end up with teams with as much or more of a claim than you have with four teams.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 6:48 am
Posted by KareemAbdul
Member since Dec 2012
1728 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:47 am to
I could live with a 8 game playoff, but I think automatic entry for conference champions is dumb. The SEC west is a better conference than most. In 2012 when UGA lost the SECCG to Alabama they probably would have been removed from a 6 team playoff. Truth be told if Alabama could of fumbled some more kickoffs they would be national champions.

I think if the playoff size goes up then you should give players a stipend finally.
Posted by The Balinese Club
Coastal Bend Area of Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2797 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:51 am to
I think it should be six teams. The winner of the P4 Championship games are automatically in. The top two seeds get a first round bye. Seeds 5-6 are at large (Including the XII if they qualify). Seeds 3-4 play seeds 5-6. Use the bowls as locations like we do now.

I don't mind the P4 conferences getting an automatic team if they win their championship game. This places an emphasis on the championship games as they become play-in games. I do have a problem with the XII getting an auto bid because they DONT have a championship game. If they want an auto bid, they need to add two teams.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 7:36 am
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:56 am to
Nah I say we need a 6 team.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 7:10 am to
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People will just feel enabled to expand it and we'll gradually see the regular season lose meaning.


yup, yup, yup
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 7:16 am to
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I think automatic entry for conference champions is dumb.


Does not matter what you or I think, the CFB is not about us. It is about keeping certain folks in the game and keeping others out. B1G saw the SEC eat their lunch when they started realignment in the late 80's but stopped at 11 and no CCG. Same with the PAC. Now both have a CCG and they have to validate it as a path to the CFP so they can get a team in every year.

You may not want to believe this, but the CCG's are here to stay and they are the defacto 8 team playoff.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 7:18 am to
This
Posted by SwizzleSticks
South Skokie
Member since Aug 2015
49 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 7:42 am to
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6. 3v6 5v4. Winner of 3v6 plays #1. Winner of 5v4 plays #2



So you think the #1 seed should play the tougher second round opponent (assuming higher seeds win)?
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