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re: It will be a shame that ESPN will win the war to keep Manziel from winning

Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

To me at this point he deserves the Heisman, but he brought this shite on himself. You can have the attitude 'I'm gonna do what that frick I want' but you also have to face the consequences.

Consequences meaning the unjustified denial of a second Heisman?

You can't blame Johnny for the media's decision to disgrace the award.
This post was edited on 10/27/13 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Neuromancer
Member since Oct 2013
749 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:02 pm to
Johnny is the only reason A&M was in the game. Bama vs. A&M.

A&M last in D. Johhny almost wins if a receiver doesnt flub a fade.

Re: Evans - Dude is a beast of the largest kind. He is the best receiver in college I have ever seen - so yes this helps JFF.

But to say JFF tosses it up for graps is crap. Yes - during the Bama game on that one play. But that was as good as a punt if picked.

If you watch Johnny's throws to Evans or other tall receivers. He can put the ball, even from far out, and unstoppable up close, in a spot just above the reach of anyone but Evans or whichever receiver. It is not just jump balls. The balls have a pace that is sizzling through too high for anyone but Evans. Johnny knows this. Is one of very few this accurate. If he couldn't throw this pass he would run or check down.

He knows how to use his receivers. He puts the ball exactly where it needs to go. Has soft touch if needed or a laser.

Yes - he has picks. If your D was going to give up a guaranteed TD every possession, you might force a few as well.

73% completion.

Dude dropped most on Bama in their history after all of the off season Saban preparing nonsense.

Evans - watch. Will be all pro.

But he needs a JFF to work with . Romo would waste him
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:02 pm to
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ESPN is a $300,000,000.00 stockholder in the Texas Longhorns.

If I had 3 hundred million invested in a product and I controlled the vast majority of the consumer opinion - I would likely do the same.

ESPN has taken it to another level this year with the blatant agenda.

1 more year of JFF free marketing all over the TV really really hurts the plan to rebuild Texas.

Texas will be back. It is just about how big of a head start does A&M get before Texas dumps its current system and immulates A&M's model.

ESPN wants to be damn sure JFF does not get another Heisman as the head start would be even bigger.

What I cant believe is that they can get all the actors on ESPN to all follow suit. Its like the SMU 30 for 30.

Oh - I am sorry I said actors I meant Herby and crew. The "Sports Guys" Biggest Douche Bag sell outs ever to see the grass on a football field.


Holy shite - do you really believe this? Still reading your Aggie Handbook that they give you guys in Fish Camp?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

ESPN
doesn't have a vote. Maybe little Johnny has more to do with his not winning (if that happens) than anyone else. You think?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:09 pm to
Little Johnny doesn't have to prove anything.
He already has the trophy.
Another one would just be gravy.
And should he not win it, I'm sure he'll shake the hand of the winner & try to move on.
Posted by Neuromancer
Member since Oct 2013
749 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:11 pm to
ESPN paid 300 million to the Horn Network. Its a business book, not Aggie. I assume they want Texas to be a good team, correct? To make your own tv network? A shitty team really doesnt need any network, much less their own.

10 starting QBs in NFL - zero went to Texas.

You horns got some big games vs. Baylor and Iowa St and Kansas St dont you? I would be wasting time on an SEC board. Id be planning a HUGE party for Baylor game. Seriously. Kegs and everything.

Leave the football to us. Go play your video of the frat guys kicking out JFF. Its same thing Mack did. and with Luck, and RGIII and Winston.

Go suck a dick
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Little Johnny doesn't have to prove anything.
He already has the trophy.
Another one would just be gravy.
And should he not win it, I'm sure he'll shake the hand of the winner & try to move on.
You are a well educated individual and you know perception is reality. You also know that the off-season antics were on Johnny not anyone else. The Heisman is a PR stunt from the get go every year. If he loses it - he lost the PR stunt; and that's on him.
Posted by Neuromancer
Member since Oct 2013
749 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

quote:
Little Johnny doesn't have to prove anything.
He already has the trophy.
Another one would just be gravy.
And should he not win it, I'm sure he'll shake the hand of the winner & try to move on.
You are a well educated individual and you know perception is reality. You also know that the off-season antics were on Johnny not anyone else. The Heisman is a PR stunt from the get go every year. If he loses it - he lost the PR stunt; and that's on him.






I was with you till the last 4 words. On him? Really? ESPN spends more days on a guy with a beer than a guy talking to agents in the open.

Its on ESPN. Herby and his sellout crew.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Its on ESPN. Herby and his sellout crew.

Manziel is a total frick up. ESPN made him do this? LINK
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42480 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:26 pm to
Jameis Winston > Manziel

Just accept that fact and get the butthurt out of the way.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:29 pm to
They flat out do not want to give it a second time to the same person. Especially when there is a viable alternative.


Same reason why a one loss SEC champion possibly could be left out of the BCSNC. SEC fatigue
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

ESPN paid 300 million to the Horn Network. Its a business book, not Aggie. I assume they want Texas to be a good team, correct? To make your own tv network? A shitty team really doesnt need any network, much less their own.

10 starting QBs in NFL - zero went to Texas.

You horns got some big games vs. Baylor and Iowa St and Kansas St dont you? I would be wasting time on an SEC board. Id be planning a HUGE party for Baylor game. Seriously. Kegs and everything.

Leave the football to us. Go play your video of the frat guys kicking out JFF. Its same thing Mack did. and with Luck, and RGIII and Winston.

Go suck a dick


The only thing that you are proving with your argument is that you are allowing you hatred for Texas to be a reason for something that hasn't even happened yet, JFF getting "snubbed" for an award that is not granted until the end of the season.

The rest of your post was intended to be an insult I believe and supports the paragraph above.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:30 pm to
Please tell me you're joking, Diamonddawg.
He spit out his tongue . It was a joke.

I agreed w most of your earlier post--about PR. Without a doubt, Johnny has been the target of [manufactured] ire (re: a tweet he let loose following a parking ticket).

I like you. But your comments are illustrative of what happens when folks believe all that they're fed.

This post was edited on 10/27/13 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Neuromancer
Member since Oct 2013
749 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:30 pm to
Didn't click I know the routine. It goes back to bigger things than what JFF did. Talking to agents - JZ no story. Bama had 2 players put the program at risk much more than any trivial shite JFF did and the story was gone before it started.

Imagine if Johnny was caught talking with JZ's agency. You think it would be a 1 half day story. If so you are an idiot.

ESPN has the agenda and it is to get Texas back in the state of Texas recruiting. The SEC is already a cash cow. They need Texas. Texas has more money than any team in the country. They have not abandon their investment.

Nobody that knows ball thinks its anyone but JFF. But the tv snippets. Even the pussy Tom Brady had to call him a turd. They probably asked him a leading question. Brady dont have time to keep up with JFF to have a real opinion. But ESPN gets their bite and thats all they need for the voters.

Hell all the Texas Heisman winners were potheads. Ced Benson busted down the door of his ex girlfriends pad and stole shite in middle of the night. Arrested. Still won it.

I know JFF had a beer and partied - sorry. Jealous pussies
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42480 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:32 pm to
Your incoherent rambling mixed with your poor usage of the English language --------- makes your posts impossible to read.

Suck --- On --- That
This post was edited on 10/27/13 at 8:32 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41903 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:32 pm to
Dont mess with ESPN agenda's...they got Bama in the NC in 2011
Posted by Maxx99
Great state of TX
Member since Oct 2013
582 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:34 pm to
Look, I hate t.u., but seriously you Ags show off that mile wide chip on your shoulders every time you post about why johnny ain’t gettin no love. And yes, I am a JFF hater, full disclosure. But you really look weak posting all that stuff about ESPN and t.u.

Notwithstanding his off field antics, the real reason he won't repeat, and someone else already said it, but:
2012 record: 10-2 (and he beat Bama)
2013 record: 6-2 (and lost to Bama and an up and coming Barn)

He hasn’t improved in the L column, and he lost to Bama. The story isn’t so glamourous this year.

This year the bar was raised. SEC Championship at minimum, BCSNCG a strong possibility. I don't expect either to happen, so now you're hanging your hopes on a second Heisman. But this is not ESPN’s splendid work, seriously Ags need to lose the double denim.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

Didn't click I know the routine. It goes back to bigger things than what JFF did. Talking to agents - JZ no story. Bama had 2 players put the program at risk much more than any trivial shite JFF did and the story was gone before it started.

Imagine if Johnny was caught talking with JZ's agency. You think it would be a 1 half day story. If so you are an idiot.

ESPN has the agenda and it is to get Texas back in the state of Texas recruiting. The SEC is already a cash cow. They need Texas. Texas has more money than any team in the country. They have not abandon their investment.

Nobody that knows ball thinks its anyone but JFF. But the tv snippets. Even the pussy Tom Brady had to call him a turd. They probably asked him a leading question. Brady dont have time to keep up with JFF to have a real opinion. But ESPN gets their bite and thats all they need for the voters.

Hell all the Texas Heisman winners were potheads. Ced Benson busted down the door of his ex girlfriends pad and stole shite in middle of the night. Arrested. Still won it.

I know JFF had a beer and partied - sorry. Jealous pussies



You are embarrassing yourself with this crap. You should quit while you're ahead. Cedric Benson did not win the Heisman. Earl Campbell was not a user of marijuana. Once again, you're allowing your hatred of UT to bleed over to a completely unrelated issue.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32240 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

But your comments are illustrative of what happens when folks believe all that they're fed.

It's a beauty contest - he is not winning it at the moment!
This post was edited on 10/27/13 at 8:45 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:40 pm to
"you Ags" = painting w an awfully broad brush

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