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re: Is this the Weakest SEC Basketball has Ever Been?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:27 pm to BigBird09
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:27 pm to BigBird09
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15 wins is optimistic, but decently realistic
I'll explain it this way. With a pretty easy non-conference slate, I see at least 10-12 wins to begin the season. From then on if we match or up our win total in the SEC from this season we are sitting at 15-18 wins. 20 is a stretch, but not out of the question. Go back and look at a few of our games that we lost this season. Give us 1-3 more players, we could've won 3-5 more games this year. Don't give me the moral victory crap, cause personally considering what happened to us, I'm okay with that. We don't lose anyone of significance this season.
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:34 pm to ChargerDog91
I'd be beyond thrilled with 15 wins next year if I were y'all. Y'all will have more depth, but you don't have any great recruits coming in to give you a much needed boost (going by rankings, because I haven't seen them play). If y'all get 15 wins next year with the group y'all have, that is a helluva good sign as far as Ray's coaching ability goes.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:34 pm to BigBird09
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le, and Taylor to rid us of our post depth problem.
Arkansas- Returns everyone, and adds two very solid posts to the mix, Portis and Kingsley
LSU- Returns pretty much everyone but the Tuba, and adds an exceptional class.
Tier 3:
Mizzou- Loses Bell, Bowers, and Oriakhi, all huge hits, but returns everyone else and adds a pretty solid class.
Don't know much about everyone else, but those should be the top teams. I'm sure some Mizzou fans will jump all over me, but you can't just replace Oriakhi and Bowers with not 1 single player who averaged more than 10 minutes down low.
My guess is Mizzou is playing in the tourney while 4 or so of those teams you list ahead of us watch.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:37 pm to Teague
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If this is not the worst year then don't remind me of one that was worse.
SEC has 9 teams with an RPI in the top 100. Only one conference, Big East, has more with 11 teams in the top 100. SEC isn't strong this year, because most of those 9 are closer to 100 than they are 1, but it's not as weak as people make it out to be.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:37 pm to BigBird09
I'll say this according to many people in the recruiting world I know, feel that IJ Ready is possibly the most underrated PG out there. Again just from people I know. Personally, though I feel Ray's coaching ability is quite exceptional. I think people will see that this coming season.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:38 pm to reedus23
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Mizzou ended up in the NIT next season. Not a flame... I just don't think that Criswell, Post, and JWIII will be able to fully replace the production of Bowers and Oriakhi down low.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:40 pm to reedus23
Maybe so. It's nothing personal and I don't think y'all will be a bad team at all, but a lot of SEC teams will be peaking next year, while your peak was last year and this year. Having said that coaching blunders do happen and players do have bad years and some terrific years, so it really wouldn't be a shock if you were right.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:43 pm to GatorsGators
Entitled to your opinion Gator. I'd still put my money on Mizzou making it. Don't lose a ton offensively with Oriakhi. Will miss him on the boards, but I don't think it will be like Criswell, JWIII, Post and Rosberg won't be solid on the boards. Will miss Bell's ability to attack the rim and his defensive presence, but I don't see his production irreplaceable. They guy whose game will be missed most will be Bowers.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:45 pm to BigBird09
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Maybe so. It's nothing personal and I don't think y'all will be a bad team at all, but a lot of SEC teams will be peaking next year, while your peak was this year. Having said that coaching blunders do happen and players do have bad years and some terrific years, so it really wouldn't be a shock if you were right.
I don't take it personal. I will agree with you that the SEC is in an upswing IMO. Young or first year coaches. Many solid recruiting classes coming in, and not just at UK and UF. Should be fun to watch as the SEC gets back to getting 6 or 7 teams in.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:01 pm to reedus23
How good is Post? The recruiting services seem pretty high on him and he had good offers, but you never know what you're getting with JUCO big men and his stats aren't that impressive.
What do you know about him? He might be the key next season. If he and Criswell can clog up the middle and rebound fairly well, I guess you'll be fine on offense with Pressey plus all of the wings.
What do you know about him? He might be the key next season. If he and Criswell can clog up the middle and rebound fairly well, I guess you'll be fine on offense with Pressey plus all of the wings.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:05 pm to reedus23
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I don't think it will be like Criswell, JWIII, Post and Rosberg won't be solid on the boards.
J3's freshman season will be very similar to Devonta Pollard's imo. He will struggle mightily.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:07 pm to CatFan81
UK is going be very, very good next year. Potentially more talented than last year's team. I'm not sure that any current UK players will start next year, unless Noel sticks around. That's how good the recruiting class is.
Other than that, I don't see much dramatic improvement potential from the other teams. Teams will improve, obviously, but I think UK will be by far the class of the league. Georgia needs KCP to stick around in the worst way.
Other than that, I don't see much dramatic improvement potential from the other teams. Teams will improve, obviously, but I think UK will be by far the class of the league. Georgia needs KCP to stick around in the worst way.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:09 pm to volfan30
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J3's freshman season will be very similar to Devonta Pollard's imo. He will struggle mightily.
I don't think so because he won't be asked to do as much. A lot more supporting cast around him.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:11 pm to Crowknowsbest
We have no clue how good UK's freshman will be.
Dakari Johnson's best asset is the fact that he's big. He's a terrible athlete and can barely get off the floor. He'll score some points and grab some rebounds because of his size and feel for the game, but he's far from a sure thing.
Marcus Lee is raw. He's athletic as hell, but he's nowhere near as good as Noel or Davis.
The Harrisons are good, but I think they might be a bit overrated. Andrew is getting hyped up like the next Rose or Wall even though he's not even on the same planet athletically.
I'll wait and see how their five stars look on a college basketball court together before handing them the trophy.
Dakari Johnson's best asset is the fact that he's big. He's a terrible athlete and can barely get off the floor. He'll score some points and grab some rebounds because of his size and feel for the game, but he's far from a sure thing.
Marcus Lee is raw. He's athletic as hell, but he's nowhere near as good as Noel or Davis.
The Harrisons are good, but I think they might be a bit overrated. Andrew is getting hyped up like the next Rose or Wall even though he's not even on the same planet athletically.
I'll wait and see how their five stars look on a college basketball court together before handing them the trophy.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:12 pm to GatorsGators
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What do you know about him? He might be the key next season. If he and Criswell can clog up the middle and rebound fairly well, I guess you'll be fine on offense with Pressey plus all of the wings.
He actually hasn't played for that long. There was a really good interview with him somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. His brother played ball. He didn't like it. His mom tried to get him to always play with his brother. Never would. Then one day it clicked. I think that's why he went JUCO. No big names because was late to the game. I imagine he's still a bit of a project with good potential upside.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:15 pm to Crowknowsbest
UK is my bet to run train through the SEC but they are freshmen, but all of the top 7 teams, other than Ole Miss and Mizzou, and LSU should all be greatly improved. If KCP returns UGA should be a better team next year too.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:15 pm to GatorsGators
Don't forget about James Young, and they might still land Andrew Wiggins, Julius Randle, or Aaron Gordon. That, combined with the talent they already have, will make for a pretty fricking formidable team.
Edit: Hoops isn't exactly like football. We don't know exactly how good they'll be, but we have a pretty darn good idea.
Edit: Hoops isn't exactly like football. We don't know exactly how good they'll be, but we have a pretty darn good idea.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:16 pm to GatorsGators
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. If he and Criswell can clog up the middle and rebound fairly well, I guess you'll be fine on offense with Pressey plus all of the wings.
Yeah, I'm not saying we'll win the SEC or anything, but I think we'll still make the tourney. Rosberg has been getting some minutes as a true freshman underneath. Pretty much sterotypical white stiff underneath who works his tail off. Wouldn't expect huge numbers from him, but between him, Criswell, Post and JWIII, I think we'll be ok on the boards. Not dominant, but ok. Brown will be that much better next year on the wing. Same with Ross. Hopefully Pressey gets smarter. Will be interesting to see if Jankovich and Webster-Chan develop. Game was too fast for them this year as freshmen.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:18 pm to GatorsGators
Not going to just hand them the trophy. Those kids are all still just freshmen and you don't know how their game will translate at each new level. However, even if they miss on 1 or 2, they still have a whole stable of 5 stars behind them.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:19 pm to Crowknowsbest
If UK lands Wiggins you might as well hand them the NCAA trophy.
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