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re: Is Saban anything more than an awesome recruiter?
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:18 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:18 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Here is the deal with Saban, something I have said since bama hired him.
The majority of his success is due to superior talent. It is why he was no better than a .500 coach in the NFL. It is also why he was 6-6 his first regular season at bama before signing the greatest and highest paid class in NCAA history (2008) which turned it around.
As for coaching, he is above average but nothing exceptional. He is a very good defensive coach and below average offensively. His style is extremely basic and succeeds primarily due to the talent advantage as said. It is basic football - play good defense, control the ball on offense, win the line of scrimmage. Without superior talent it is .600 coaching or so. With superior talent it is not going to lose a game it shouldn't and will win the vast majority of the time.
His "process" is nothing exactly groundbreaking. It is just attention to detail with a very meticulous plan covering all aspects of a program down to the smallest detail, combined with an obsessive never-ending year round work ethic/grind. The work ethic saban has is the engine that makes it run. The media always loves to talk about how coaches work around the clock all year, yada, yada. Saban is the one that actually does it though and the man is the most obsessive thing I have ever seen about it.
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:19 am to Libertyabides71
Zip it bitch.
Oh yeah, 34-28. Thanks Nick.
Oh yeah, 34-28. Thanks Nick.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:22 am to FourThreeForty
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Because of the PROCESS. Nothing else matters and nothing else needs to be said.
QFT. Results > Opinions
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:22 am to tiger4178
Scratch Georgia. Richt is the mold of coach they need to be able to even enjoy the long term moderate success we have since 01. He is a coach that can succeed, moderately, under major self imposed restrictions by the program. Will never be great under any coach. A coach like Saban would never take that job with those built in restrictions. He desires a program fully commited and one that will give him full control of the "process." Nobody will get that at "holier than thou" UGA. Richt has done as good a job as can be done because he fits the expectations perfectly. That is, win moderately and maintain the admin perception of doing things above the fray. He settles for that and seems okay with it.....which is the main reason he has never bolted. A coach with higher ambition and true elite aspirations would have exited Athens long before now. Saban wouldn't take the UGA job to begin with but if someone with a similiararities "process" did, he would bolt after two years when the first opportunity arose.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:24 am to CrimsonChin
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Nick Saban is the hardest working coach in football.
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he knows what to do with em when they get here. And although he struggles with spread teams, he's a defensive guru and he'll get that fixed.
I agree with almost everything you said here. But this last is not true. Strategically, Nick Saban is ordinary on both sides of the ball. He often gets out-schemed on defense. However, his guys are almost always the most disciplined on the field. When Saban says five and out they run five and out. When they're supposed cover a zone they do it. In college that's what's necessary to win because college aged kids are such doofie. In the pros you better be able to scheme with the best, and that's not Saban's hallmark. He's the best coach in college, though.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:26 am to Dick Leverage
This is nothing new....Saban would be the first one to tell you his success is not because he is an x and o genius but it's due to his recruiting prowess and his approach to running his program....which explains the Kiffen hire....he is looking to breath some fresh air and supercharge the offense with some new thinking.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:29 am to Penrod
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I agree with almost everything you said here. But this last is not true. Strategically, Nick Saban is ordinary on both sides of the ball. He often gets out-schemed on defense. However, his guys are almost always the most disciplined on the field. When Saban says five and out they run five and out. When they're supposed cover a zone they do it. In college that's what's necessary to win because college aged kids are such doofie. In the pros you better be able to scheme with the best, and that's not Saban's hallmark. He's the best coach in college, though.
Its easy to see when someone is talking shite. I thought our D was "too complicated" compared to Chavis? You LSU fans have lost your shite. His defense really had nothing to do with his stint with the Dolphins. He had a big turnaround in his first year and his 2nd year injuries hit. That and going with a healthy QB over Brees when they could not get a good medical report on him. Jason Taylor especially thrived under Saban with 12.0 (up from 9 in 04) and 13.5 both years.
Its funny Saban "struggles" with Spread Teams when we've beaten 10 times the number of spread teams than we lost to. And spread isn't a single type of offense, basically you are saying Nick struggles with teams with an offense which also isn't true.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:31 am to tiger4178
Saban coached two seasons in the NFL and went to the playoffs his first year, he didn't flop. Quit saying that shite just because you don't like him.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 12:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:Now why would the score of the IB have anything to do with your obviosely biased and stupid post? I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people outside of Auburn think it's biased and stupid, too.
Zip it bitch. Oh yeah, 34-28. Thanks Nick
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