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re: Is it the unpopular opinion that Tunsil is a victim?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:49 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:49 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Enabler? I'm curious how you will spin this one now. Please tell me how feeling someone is a victim by being exploited by someone close to them, is emotionally enabling.
I've held back with you, because I have always liked you. But your posts on the off topic board combined with this subject are telling. You seem like an a-hole.
I've held back with you, because I have always liked you. But your posts on the off topic board combined with this subject are telling. You seem like an a-hole.
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:49 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Nobody answered my question.
If the video came out at the time it happened, say his sophomore year, would this really have been all that damaging? No, it wouldn't have. This was a deliberate attack and that makes Tunsil a victim.
When all of those nude photos of celebrities were hacked from the Cloud did you consider them victims? Or were you of the mindset of "Well, shouldn't have taken nude photos!"?
If the video came out at the time it happened, say his sophomore year, would this really have been all that damaging? No, it wouldn't have. This was a deliberate attack and that makes Tunsil a victim.
When all of those nude photos of celebrities were hacked from the Cloud did you consider them victims? Or were you of the mindset of "Well, shouldn't have taken nude photos!"?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:50 am to DawgsLife
Please respond to my scenario earlier. I responded to you, and directed the scenario to you.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:50 am to CNB
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It's pretty telling that everyone wants to focus on the fact that he smoked weed and recorded himself rather than the fact that he was exploited and apparently blackmailed.
The world we live in
We are not giving a pass to the guy who put the film out there. We are simply saying he knew the risks and decided to do it anyway and he got caught.
Is Freeze a victim?
Todd Gurley?
Reggie Bush?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:50 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
People are saying Tunsil shouldn't be considered a victim because it made that info "easily available" because he recorded it or was using social media to interact with a employee at Ole Miss.
You put yourself at a higher risk of having your bank account hacked by utilizing the online banking option. Does that make you any less a victim of theft? You didn't post your bank info publicly for everyone to see no more than Tunsil posted those messages or video publicly for everyone else to see. Both are a crime.
You put yourself at a higher risk of having your bank account hacked by utilizing the online banking option. Does that make you any less a victim of theft? You didn't post your bank info publicly for everyone to see no more than Tunsil posted those messages or video publicly for everyone else to see. Both are a crime.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:51 am to BluegrassBelle
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Hacking into your online banking is a crime. Come on. Don't be so dense.
How do you not see the flaw in your analogy? Tunsil recorded himself doing something illegal. It got leaked. Online banking isn't illegal, smoking weed and videoing yourself is.
ETA: To help you better understand. Using the online banking option and smoking an illegal substance are not one and the same.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:51 am to CNB
They will not think the celebrities were victims, because they are sanctimonious pricks who lack the ability to feel sorry for people. It's sad. I'm out, about to watch this game 7 and grill out.
I'll check in later to see if dawgslife ever decided to respond to my scenario.
I'll check in later to see if dawgslife ever decided to respond to my scenario.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:52 am to CNB
I did answer your question actually.
Who knows what was asked and said in his interviews with teams? Maybe he wasn't completely open with his answers?
Who knows what was asked and said in his interviews with teams? Maybe he wasn't completely open with his answers?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:52 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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What proof is there that he was blackmailed? I never saw that. Can you link so I can be better informed?
Deadspin - Somebody has been trying to sell that gas mask video for weeks..
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:52 am to DawgsLife
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We are not giving a pass to the guy who put the film out there. We are simply saying he knew the risks and decided to do it anyway and he got caught.
This.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:53 am to BluegrassBelle
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online banking
Online banking is not prohibited by law, nor by the rules of an organization of which I am a member, NOR by my prospective employer. Because it is a legal and encouraged activity, I am offered immediate protection should it become compromised.
This is not analogous to Tunsil's actions, even though there are ramifications for the person who did the hacking.
Had someone posted a covert video of him applying hemorrhoid medication, I would feel differently.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:56 am
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:53 am to DawgsLife
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We are not giving a pass to the guy who put the film out there. We are simply saying he knew the risks and decided to do it anyway and he got caught.
This
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:54 am to CNB
It was a deliberate attack.
Agreed.
And the ammunition was a video that Tunsil knowingly allowed.
If he was smarter or cared more, there is no attack and there is no harm. Period.
The attacker is a malicious POS and Tunsil is a dumbass, not a victim.
Agreed.
And the ammunition was a video that Tunsil knowingly allowed.
If he was smarter or cared more, there is no attack and there is no harm. Period.
The attacker is a malicious POS and Tunsil is a dumbass, not a victim.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:54 am to DWag215
Agreed
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:54 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Who knows what was asked and said in his interviews with teams? Maybe he wasn't completely open with his answers?
And I responded to you. Didn't realize that was a direct response to my question, my apologies.
The dolphins were aware of it, so presumably Ole Miss and other draft teams were aware of it as well.
For all we know, Freeze punished him behind closed doors and he redeemed himself. It happens all the time. Player gets in trouble, and then has an opportunity to redeem himself. Tunsil wasn't given that opportunity publicly because the information came out MINUTES before the draft.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:56 am to DWag215
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It was a deliberate attack.
Agreed.
And the ammunition was a video that Tunsil knowingly allowed.
If he was smarter or cared more, there is no attack and there is no harm. Period.
The attacker is a malicious POS and Tunsil is a dumbass, not a victim.
You call the person who put this out there an "attacker" yet the person it was aimed against isn't a victim?
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:58 am to BluegrassBelle
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So if your bank account was hacked because you utilize online banking, you'd just chalk it up to "Oh I shouldn't have done that online"? You wouldn't consider yourself a victim of an illegal act?
While we live in a day and age where technology is utilized for various things from video to text, there is an assumed amount of privacy we should expect if we're not the one putting that out there for public knowledge. It's why there's laws addressing hacking (see the charges filed against the guy who hacked all the celeb nude photos from the cloud recently).
It is entirely possible to feel sympathy for someone who is pretty clearly exploited from something like that.
You are missing one important point, though. Nobody took millions of dollars away from him. He did not lose money because a video was posted of him. There are TONS of videos posted of him.
He lost the money because of his actions on that video.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:59 am to CNB
Underage girl gets drunk at a bar
She gets a roofie in her drink and is raped
"Well if she cared more it would never have happened! The attacker is a malicious POS but she isn't a victim because she broke the law and made it easy"
She gets a roofie in her drink and is raped
"Well if she cared more it would never have happened! The attacker is a malicious POS but she isn't a victim because she broke the law and made it easy"
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:59 am to BluegrassBelle
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You put yourself at a higher risk of having your bank account hacked by utilizing the online banking option. Does that make you any less a victim of theft?
The difference is we did not lose any money as a result of our illegal or immoral actions. In his case that is exactly why he lost the money.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:00 pm to CNB
Now you're comparing blackmailing to rape. Good lord. Y'all are all over the place.
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