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re: Is Derek Henry the least hyped pre-draft Heisman winner in history?

Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:37 pm to
Eric Crouch, Troy Smith, Jason White, Chris Weinke?
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:44 pm to
Derek Henry broke a 2000 year old high school rushing record and was declared a failure because he didn't sign with any of those SEC schools east of the Black Warrior river.
The NFL will make him millions, despite the anti-hype... He gains yards and scores touchdowns.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:45 pm to
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Is Derek Henry the least hyped pre-draft Heisman winner in history?


Some of us can actually remember Pat Sullivan.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:46 pm to
Ron dayne


Which he is most like anyways
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:48 pm to
I could see Henry playing well in Dallas.

They have an early second round pick.

DH can pass block very well.
He could help Romo survive another season.
Posted by Whiskey Man
St Somewhere
Member since Nov 2012
910 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 5:57 pm to
Henry has Ingram and Richardson to thank for it. The league sees gump RBs as soon to be busts.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:07 pm to
Ingram is an average NFL back

Lacy has been boom or bust

Yeldon has a fantastic rookie year.


But yea, solid narrative.
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:09 pm to
Jason White wasn't even drafted and didn't get a single workout
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:09 pm to
I don't remember Eric Crouch getting a lot of love going into the draft.
Posted by Grovewater
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:24 pm to
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But how the frick could anyone call him "not explosive".. dude was basically a home run hitter. He'll hit you for 3 ypc 30 times a game and then bust off a handful of long runs where he is literally unstoppable.


There's a difference between "speed" and "explosiveness", a guy who runs a 4.53 40 isn't necessarily as "explosive" or "quick twitch" as a guy who maybe runs a 4.6 40. "Explosiveness" is how fast a guy can get to top speed, that's what makes Fournette and Chubb special. They can hit the hole and break through gaps at alarming speeds, Henry doesn't have that. It's how you time in the first 20 yards that matters more than the last 20. In the NFL, where defensive linemen are 3 steps faster than in college, i'm sorry, I don't see Henry having a quick enough burst to be effective at that level. Especially in today's NFL where run comes secondary to pass, and Runningbacks are used as 3-5 yard machines to keep defenses honest.

It's the same reason why Treadwell isn't running the 40, he probably only runs about a 4.65 40, because he doesn't have insane top level speed, but he has insane burst and an extremely short build up time, in addition to being a physical brawler.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Grovewater
Member since Jul 2015
249 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:28 pm to
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Ingram is an average NFL back

Lacy has been boom or bust

Yeldon has a fantastic rookie year.


But yea, solid narrative.


Don't get me wrong, i'm not attacking Alabama. I think the narrative of "Bama RB's bust" is stupid. I'm just making an evaluation of Henry. I think all of those guys are better than Henry.....Well, Lacy was before he got on the Wisconsin fried cheese and beer diet.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:42 pm to
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There's a difference between "speed" and "explosiveness", a guy who runs a 4.53 40 isn't necessarily as "explosive" or "quick twitch" as a guy who maybe runs a 4.6 40. "Explosiveness" is how fast a guy can get to top speed, that's what makes Fournette and Chubb special. They can hit the hole and break through gaps at alarming speeds, Henry doesn't have that. It's how you time in the first 20 yards that matters more than the last 20. In the NFL, where defensive linemen are 3 steps faster than in college, i'm sorry, I don't see Henry having a quick enough burst to be effective at that level. Especially in today's NFL where run comes secondary to pass, and Runningbacks are used as 3-5 yard machines to keep defenses honest.



I just consider "explosive".. as a propensity for big plays.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:43 pm to
Collins will be the best pro back out of the SEC this year.

#JumpCuts
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:08 pm to
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They took him at the end of the 1st round and he is a once every 5-10 year type player at running back, even more so than Fournette.


He was taken with the 10th pick... Im no mathematician but that's nowhere near the end.

And lots of people think Elliott is a better prospect than Gurley.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
54072 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:24 pm to
Great college player.

Will be second or third string at the next level.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:24 pm to
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Collins will be the best pro back out of the SEC this year.



He has it all.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:29 pm to
Troy Smith?
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:42 pm to
Damn, jump up to #1 on the stupid metric. Nice work. Derrick, not the Jeter spelling, is the best the SEC has seen since Alexander. I love the no moves and three steps to top end comments. Troll Tide.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:43 pm to
I will take that bet. UT has two backs better,and one couldn't cut it at Bama.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83450 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:45 pm to
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Elliott is a better prospect than Gurley.

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