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re: Is Derek Henry the least hyped pre-draft Heisman winner in history?

Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:54 pm to
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HENRY AVERAGED 5.6 YARDS PER CARRY


Chubb averaged over 7 as a freshman. So, like I said before, lets not act like it's inconceivable that he could better Henry's totals against those defenses.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:55 pm to
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In today's NFL you'd be crazy to take any RB in the 1st round.


Arian Foster is a great example of this
Posted by LC412000
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Edited, thank you for pointing that out. Even if it is a proper noun, i'm still in the habbit of assuming "I" before "E
Set me up with a 20 yr old COED on my next visit to Oxford and we can call it even
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:57 pm to
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Chubb averaged over 7 as a freshman


It is inconceivable that he would have put up much more than Henry did, yea. Maybe an extra 10-15 yards a game? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted by Brageous
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:57 pm to
Henry will be worse than Trent Richardson in the NFL, if that's even possible
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:57 pm to
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Broke a 20 year old SEC rushing record..



In 4 extra games
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:58 pm to
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Henry will be worse than Trent Richardson in the NFL, if that's even possible


So like, LF7 vs Alabama bad then? I hope not, for Derrick's sake.
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:58 pm to
If the name of his team had been anything other than Alabama, he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning it over McCaffrey or Watson.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:58 pm to
On less carries, idiot.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:59 pm to
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In 4 extra games


Wrong. He broke Tre Mason and Tim Tebow's mark, both of which were achieved in 14 games (SECCG + Bowl Game)

Through 14 games Henry had 25 TDs. Through 14 games Mason & Tebow had 23 TDs.


As for yards, he ran for 2,219 yards on 395 carries.
Herschel Walker ran for 1,891 yards on 385 carries.

Henry broke his record long before he passed him in total carries.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Grovewater
Member since Jul 2015
249 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:00 pm to
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Honestly, I think that was Kiffin's worst coaching job of the season. Henry was ripping off runs left and right the 4th quarter, and when we got the ball back down 6 we should have let him run more. Kiffin got cute and Coker threw a pick to seal the game.



I 100% agree. Ironically, I would argue it was Kirby Smart's best Defensive coaching performance despite the number of points given up. If you remember, Henry was shredding us mid/late in the 4th because our Defense was gassed and hanging on for dear life. That was caused by Kirby Smart adjusting his game-plan, and forcing our offense into four straight 3 and outs.

I remember telling my buddies at the bar when we were watching it that if Bama wins, it was because of Kirby Smart. Even if in that scenario he wouldn't have gotten the credit.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:00 pm to
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If the name of his team had been anything other than Alabama, he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning it over McCaffrey or Watson


Yea, guys who lead the nation in rushing TD's and rushing yards never have a chance to win the Heisman. Probably wouldn't have even gone to New York if he had played at a podunk school like Tennessee or Auburn, right?

Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:01 pm to
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may not break a lot of huge runs, but the football equivalent of a "singles hitter"
We'll see about the NFL, but this is totally opposite what he was in college.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:02 pm to
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, I would argue it was Kirby Smart's best Defensive coaching performance despite the number of points given up


I agree, I actually thought our defense played pretty well that game. Kelly played a great game and made great throws. Most of the big plays were a result of Ole Miss making perfect plays, not defensive breakdowns.

But yea, Kiffin got caught up in the catch up mode towards the end and let Coker try and win the game. Early season Jake Coker was not ready for that.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:04 pm to
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but he's desperately unexplosive,


lol what


He is quite literally the most explosive Alabama RB that has ever put on a crimson uniform.

Can you remember a time when someone caught him from behind? I don't. He was a big play waiting to happen every time he got the ball while at Alabama.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:05 pm to
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He is quite literally the most explosive Alabama RB that has ever put on a crimson uniform.

Can you remember a time when someone caught him from behind? I don't. He was a big play waiting to happen every time he got the ball while at Alabama.




The fact that people are still bashing the guy when everyone is in agreement he will be a 2-3rd round pick and a solid, but not best RB in the league, type RB is really weird. I don't get it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43806 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:05 pm to
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hey might yet. Gurley could be an exception, but the short average shelf life + quantity of viable and cheaper replacements makes RB in the first round in lieu of positions with more longevity and more scarce quality options a very risky proposition.


Six of the top ten rushers in the NFL were first round picks. The position is diminished, somewhat, but let's not act like the better RBs in the league are all UDFA's.
Posted by Grovewater
Member since Jul 2015
249 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:07 pm to
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Early season Jake Coker was not ready for that.



That's the mind-blowing thing. I would argue that Jacob Coker was still pretty christ awful even at the end of the year, and despite that Saban and Staff STILL found a way to bring home the trophy.

I'v always been the guy during the off-season to question teams without a sure thing at QB, but after these last 2 years, I will never question Saban's ability again.

The man took a team led by BLAKE SIMS, and got the the playoff, and won the whole damn thing this year with a bad JAKE COKER. Unless this Barnett kid ends up being a trainwreck on the same level as Jeremy Johnson, I would pick Bama to roll again to another title in 2016.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Shakita Bonita
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:08 pm to
Everyone knows he was just the default winner, alabama fans just have a hard time coming to terms with that.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:09 pm to
Troy Smith was a fifth-round pick in a draft with the following qbs taken ahead of him:

JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Kevin Kolb, John Beck, Drew Stanton, Trent Edwards, Isaiah Stanback, and Jeff Rowe

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