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re: Is Avery Johnson's contract really 6 years 18 million?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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then I really don't see any issue.
The poor programs have issue,they can not keep up. They know that every time the big boys go big it will cause more pressure on their meager resources.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:18 pm to piggidyphish
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So because it worked for saban, you guys didn't over pay this time?
I think I've made my point and reasoning pretty clear above if you really care to read it and see what I think.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:18 pm to RT1941
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Bammers sold their sole to Satan.
Is this some joke I'm missing?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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UA AD is financially comfortable, maybe that has some rival folks perturbed? Maybe that's why it matters to them what UA pays their coaches?
quote:And people have the AUdacity to question the UA BOT and the UA Athletic Department.
We make tons of money and have generally invested that money wisely. We aren't begging for SECN checks to help pay off our long term debt. When you do that you get the opportunity it pay a premium for a risk/reward type guy like this.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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ometimes paying a slight premium is worth it due to other factors. I'm 100% fine with it.
All of this...where would we be if we didn't lock down this hire...outside the tRant, this hire has received universally good publicity and has been well received by the fans, media, etc.
Contrast that to the narrative had we blown this hire by holding out for another $500K p.a.? I would argue the cost of not locking down CAJ would be greater has he not not pulled the trigger at $3MM p.a.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:22 pm to piggidyphish
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you guys didn't over pay this time?
Don't care if Bama "overpaid", in fact I encouraged the idea as soon as Grant was fired.
Overpaid for market value is always debatable. Pay in relation to revenue is fact. Bama pays less percentage than most SEC programs. I wished Bama would have paid more, maybe a huge raise in two years will be in order.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:22 pm to 14&Counting
We decided that $3M for Avery Johnson could compound over time into something much bigger (both in winning and in revenue) than the meager savings of $1.25M a year by hiring Steve Prohm for $1.75 or $2M.
Hell, just money they will make over the next year or two from ticket sales, merchandise, etc from having Johnson over Prohm/White will probably come close to equaling out the $250-500K difference. I can pretty much guarantee that. And that is even if Johnson is a total failure and never wins more than 17 games.
Hell, just money they will make over the next year or two from ticket sales, merchandise, etc from having Johnson over Prohm/White will probably come close to equaling out the $250-500K difference. I can pretty much guarantee that. And that is even if Johnson is a total failure and never wins more than 17 games.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:22 pm to piggidyphish
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Bammers sold their sole to Satan.
quote:No, the very soles of our shoes are scorched from treading the fire and brimstone path that Saban forces the fanbase to travel while worshipping at his altar.
Is this some joke I'm missing?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:28 pm to RT1941
The issue is not how much they paid. The issue is bammers acting like some coach who had mixed results at best with two NBA owners that would spend any amount of money to win is some home run hire. This is especially true when nobody else wanted said coach
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:32 pm to auburnphan23
quote:The REAL issue Phan, is that you actually read the UA student paper.
The issue is not how much they paid. The issue is bammers acting like some coach who had mixed results at best with two NBA owners that would spend any amount of money to win is some home run hire. This is especially true when nobody else wanted said coach
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:33 pm to RT1941
I mean, Marshall would have been a homerun hire. Avery comes with questions and maybe even concerns. I think it's a good hire, all things considered. But far from a homerun.
IMO
IMO
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:36 pm to cas4t
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Marshall would have been a homerun hire.
No guarantee that he would have been a homerun hire....
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:37 pm to cas4t
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I mean, Marshall would have been a homerun hire. Avery comes with questions and maybe even concerns. I think it's a good hire, all things considered. But far from a homerun.
IMO
100% agree on all fronts. Johnson is a wild card. I think that his personality and strengths will work well in college, and his personality and likeability is a HUGE home run for our program, but whether it will all work out is up in the air. I think that at we worst we are what we were with Anthony Grant, and at best we could really get back to a constant NCAA program and a threat in the league.
If the choices were mid-major guy or Johnson (Which they were once Marshall said no), I'm going with the Johnson risk every time. And I'm glad we did, $2.5M or $3M.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:39 pm to 14&Counting
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No guarantee that he would have been a homerun hire....
I think it's a fair statement. He's a phenomenal coach who is already plugged in high schools and AAU. And he would have been able to recruit out of the midwest, too. He's an elite coach that will eventually land at a tier 1 basketball school.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:39 pm to cas4t
quote:Personally as a Bama fan, I'm perfectly happy with the hire - I think it's great and his attitude & personality are desperately needed in the program. I couldn't give two shits how much the brother gets paid - UA can afford it.
I mean, Marshall would have been a homerun hire. Avery comes with questions and maybe even concerns. I think it's a good hire, all things considered. But far from a homerun. IMO
Maybe the rival fans that are so concerned about how the UA AD spends their money should sit back and see how CAJ's staff fleshes out and maybe their stress will be mitigated somewhat until Avery actually puts a team on the floor.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:41 pm to RT1941
As a lifelong diehard Bama football and Duke basketball fan I agree.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:42 pm to RT1941
I'm not concerned with anything related to Alabama athletics. Having an opinion on a situation is not the same as being concerned. I personally think that Johnson isn't worth it, but if Bama wants to set that precedent for every bball coach in the future if Johnson doesn't pan out, then by all means, do you Bama.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:44 pm to cas4t
quote:Avery Johnson is plugged into the AAU circuit - and he's been through the college recruiting ropes as well. Albeit from a parents point of view, but neither AAU or college recruiting is forgein to the man.
I think it's a fair statement. He's a phenomenal coach who is already plugged in high schools and AAU. And he would have been able to recruit out of the midwest, too. He's an elite coach that will eventually land at a tier 1 basketball school.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:45 pm to cas4t
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I personally think that Johnson isn't worth it, but if Bama wants to set that precedent for every bball coach in the future if Johnson doesn't pan out, then by all means, do you Bama.
Honestly there really isn't very much precedent. Not a lot of NBA coaches with his sort of up and down NBA resume and no college experience have taken college jobs.
But yea, I want to get our guy however we can do it while sticking to our budgeted salary figures. To be totally honest, IDGAF how it effects anyone else and how they decide to spend their money or how the market changes. Not my concern.
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